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In an renewed attempt to block the long expected beatification of pope Pius XII - the "Pastor Angelicus" of Rome and the Church who saved almost a million Jews during WWII - Alberto Melloni, a well known "progressivist" Catholic Italian intellectual accused the holy pontiff of having ordered the withholding of forcibly baptized children hidden by the Vatican Jew families wanted back after the end of the war.

The charge wasn't new, and was debunked a million times even by Jews who seem more active in defending Eugenio Pacelli than catholics lately.

I thought it was over after 15 days of media "deja vu" here in Italy but now Hell's Bible (aka NYTimes) relaunched the campaign. Btw, the Italian Bishops conference performed an impressive crackdown on the subject virtually sinking the liberal fleet. I am impressed. I wish they did so more often.

The misrepresented document at the origin of the charge shows nothing else than what any diligent and prudent person on earth would have done: do not give children ot self proclaimed "organizations" clainìming a right to "take care" of children whose families had entrusted the Church of their protection.

If the children where orphans, and no parent or direct relative would search for tehm or it had been impossible to find them again after years of Nazi terror, then the Church would raise them as baptized catholics, if baptized. But of course, liberal catholics, now with the help of the NYT, could resist the temptation to smear the Church.
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"This document is indicative of a mind-set at the Vatican that dealt with problems in a legal framework without worrying that there were human beings involved," Mr. Fouilloux said. "It shows that the massacre of Jews was not seen by the Holy See as something of importance." http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/09/inter ... an.html?th

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The document underscores the sanctity with which the Vatican treated the sacrament of baptism at the time - no matter how or why it was administered.

ANd now a gem of the ignorance of church's law and history plus blatant lie:
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The church's stance that a baptized child is irrevocably Christian was established nearly a century before the Holocaust, when, in 1858, papal guards took Edgardo Mortara, 6, from his family in Bologna when word spread that he had been clandestinely baptized by a Catholic maid. It was relaxed only in the 1960's.

The Mortara case was part of the mud slinging against Blessed Pius IX. I can't linger on this side story now but sufice it to say that Mortara became a Catholic priest and died as a saint. When asked if he wanted to go back to his family he loved dearly he chose to stay and become a catholic priest.

There is even a loudicrous attempt to mark a difference on the issue between Piux XII and then France's Nuncio Angelo Roncalli, futrure John XXIII. Both Melloni and now the NYT fail to mention bishop Roncalli' stance on the evangelization of jews, that was far less "cautious" than Pacelli's.

There's so much documentation on the holiness and the efforts of Pius XII that there's no need to examinate them now. But since there won't be lack of "catholics" joining the smear campaign against one of the greatest Popes of all times, it is useful to re-read a 2001 article by Rabbi David Dalin, Ph.D, who managed to grasp one neglected aspect of the controversy:
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Curiously, nearly everyone pressing this line today — from the ex-seminarians John Cornwell and Garry Wills to the ex-priest James Carroll — is a lapsed or angry Catholic. For Jewish leaders of a previous generation, the campaign against Pius XII would have been a source of shock. During and after the war, many well-known Jews — Albert Einstein, Golda Meir, Moshe Sharett, Rabbi Isaac Herzog, and innumerable others — publicly expressed their gratitude to Pius. In his 1967 book Three Popes and the Jews, the diplomat Pinchas Lapide (who served as Israeli consul in Milan and interviewed Italian Holocaust survivors) declared Pius XII "was instrumental in saving at least 700,000, but probably as many as 860,000 Jews from certain death at Nazi hands."

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Almost none of the recent books about Pius XII and the Holocaust is actually about Pius XII and the Holocaust. Their real topic proves to be an intra-Catholic argument about the direction of the Church today, with the Holocaust simply the biggest club available for liberal Catholics to use against traditionalists.
A theological debate about the future of the papacy is obviously something in which non-Catholics should not involve themselves too deeply. But Jews, whatever their feelings about the Catholic Church, have a duty to reject any attempt to usurp the Holocaust and use it for partisan purposes in such a debate — particularly when the attempt disparages the testimony of Holocaust survivors and spreads to inappropriate figures the condemnation that belongs to Hitler and the Nazis. http://catholiceducation.org/articles/p ... h0024.html

God Bless Rabbi Dalin and the beloved people of Israel.

On the light of Rabbi Dalin's insightful observations about the dispute on the papacy it is very interesting to read some literature on the subject by those groups who have been praying for a new conclave and a new concil in hte last 25 years:

Goodbye, King Pope. The Progressivists' Plan at the Conclave. They will loose.

And guess what? The author of one of the books cited in the article I link to is....Alberto Melloni, ladies and gentleman, the "discoverer" of the document that triggered the storm of mud that must have been certainly useful to the confidence in the Church and therefore the eternal destiny of so many souls...
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But the judgment of its authors on the Church after John Paul II is not dissimilar. Of the program set out in the memo, pope Karol Wojtyla has not realized a single point.

A confirmation of this critical judgment on the pontificate of John Paul II can be found in another book published recently in Italy: "Mother Church, Church Stepmother," written by Church historian Alberto Melloni, who has also been for years one of the pillars of the Dossetttian "workshop" of Bologna, together with Alberigo and the prior of the monastery of Bose, Enzo Bianchi.

One of the central theses of Melloni's book is that "on the agenda of the Church of tomorrow, there is still much that remains from that of 1978," and that the reform projects assigned by Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini to a future Vatican Council III, which he called for in a famous speech in 1999, "could have been pronounced with the same conviction in the 'de eligendo pontifice' oration of the conclaves of 1978."

The reforms Cardinal Martini called for concern married priests, women's ordination, lay participation in the ministry, sexual morality, communion for remarried divorced persons, the sacrament of penance, and ecumenism. But at the root of all this was a proposal for more collegial Church governance.

NOTA BENE: it is not my intention to imply or bring about the idea that card. Martini is a heretic or a liberal fanatic, no disrespect intended here. It is Melloni who uses Cardinal's name. The quote was intended to show what these guys have in mind and how we should consider their charges against the giants of our history. It's the papacy the hate.

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It seems to me that the New York times hopes to sling enough mud to avoid questions as to what did they do about the Holocaust.

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Let's rejoince that the college of cardinals won't elect the NYT our next Pope!


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There's so much documentation on the holiness and the efforts of Pius XII that there's no need to examinate them now. But since there won't be lack of "catholics" joining the smear campaign against one of the greatest Popes of all times, it is useful to re-read a 2001 article by Rabbi David Dalin, Ph.D, who managed to grasp one neglected aspect of the controversy:


Not to mention, one of the most prolific of all times.

Pius XII certainly had one of the most trying seats among the succesors of Peter. He knew that whatever he did before and during WW2, he would be marked for all time, but I don't think this was at all a consideration in the decisions he made.

The only consideration he took in trying to save lives was how not to endanger the safety of the fleeing millions -- within and without the Church -- from the Nazi persecution. For this, his memory has been maliciously attacked, something which, no matter how hard I try to look at the issue from all sides, is still beyond my comprehension.

And it is worthwhile to note that Pius XII planted the seeds of Vatican II, but did not lived to see its fruition.

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UPDATE: the document that triggered the new smear-campaign against Pius XII was found and translated by Italian journalist Andrea Tornielli and published by the newspaper "Il Giornale".

As expected, what was universally known was confirmed: the Pope always ordered to send kids back to families. The only restriction was intended for organizations claiming rights on the babies they couldn't prove, as any responsible authority would have done in such circumstances.

Truly a major setback for the lobby seeking scandals to exploit. I insist on the more important aspect of the controversy: they say Pius, but it is "papacy" they have in mind, especially after 25 years of a pontificate that turned out to be very different from what they had hoped.

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I think it was Clare Booth Luce who said
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Pope Pius XII has proved it several times over.

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I found out that the link to the article Goodbye, King Pope. The Progressivists' Plan at the Conclave is not working anymore. Here's a new one. Nice to re-read that now

http://www.chiesa.espressonline.it/dett ... 1473&eng=y

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Fabrizio,

The left's tactic of trying to keep slinging mud on someone to make themselves look good has its limits. First of all, they have to keep on slinging till enough of it sticks---which is a drawback for those who start slinging in case the facts are opposite and easy to prove when coupled with a loyal and dedicated oppostition.

In this case, one asks if leftist attacks amount to "post mortem martyrdom" and argue for his Sainthood by showing the animousity of the satanic media directed at him?


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On the real goals of the canards about Pius XII, here's an interview with Rabbi David G. Dalin - one of the most brilliant defenders of Eugenio Pacelli's heroic struggle to protect persecuted Jews - whose latest book - The Myth of Hitler’s Pope: How Pope Pius XII Rescued Jews from the Nazis - was released just recently:

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Woods: You argue in your book that “very few of the many recent books about Pius XII and the Holocaust are actually about Pius XII and the Holocaust.”

Dalin: That’s exactly right. The liberal best-selling attacks on the pope and the Catholic Church are really an intra-Catholic argument about the direction of the Catholic Church today…especially on issues relating to sexuality, including abortion, contraception, priestly celibacy, and the role of women in the Church. The anti-papal polemics of ex-seminarians like Garry Wills and John Cornwell, and of ex-priests like James Carroll, and of other lapsed or angry liberal Catholics, exploit the tragedy of the Jewish people during the Holocaust to foster their own political agenda of forcing changes on the Catholic Church today.

The Holocaust cannot legitimately be used for partisan purposes in such a debate. That is true particularly when the attempt disparages the testimony of Jewish Holocaust survivors who praised Pope Pius XII for his efforts on their behalf. And it is an abominable slander to spread blame that belongs to Hitler and the Nazis to a pope who was a friend of the Jews and who opposed Hitler and the Nazis. Jews have a duty to reject such arguments that usurp the Holocaust and use it for a liberal war against the Catholic Church [which], if successful, would undermine the foundations of Christianity and Judaism alike, because of the liberal critics’ overwhelming disregard for traditional religion and for the truth. This hijacking of the Holocaust must be repudiated. The truth about Pope Pius XII — which the mainstream media has been content to ignore while helping to make best-sellers out of bad history — must be restored. The liberal culture war against tradition — of which the Pope Pius XII controversy is a microcosm — must be recognized for what it is: an assault on the institution of the Catholic Church and traditional religion.

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Catholic and Jewish leaders and scholars should, during the next few years, continue to work together to support and promote the cause of recognizing and honoring Pius XII as a “righteous gentile.” In promoting the cause of thus honoring Pius XII as a “righteous gentile,” who did so much to rescue and shelter Jews during the Holocaust, his defenders and admirers will help to restore his historic reputation and legacy as a friend of the Jewish people, who saved more Jewish lives than any other single person.

The restoration of his historical reputation and legacy as a pre-eminent Catholic friend and rescuer of Jews during the Holocaust should and eventually will, one hopes, also help promote the cause of Pius XII’s candidacy for sainthood.

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http://www.zenit.org/article-14979?l=english

In an interview with Zenit, Professor Ronald Rychlak, Law professor at the University of Mississippi and an adviser to the Holy See's delegation to the United Nations, presents the informations contained in his recent book "Righteous Gentiles: How Pope Pius XII and the Catholic Church Saved Half a Million Jews from the Nazis". Beside the useful considerations concerning the brazen lies about Eugenio Pacelli - whom all honest Catholics and men of good will hope to see honored with canonization as soon as possible - here is a part of the interview I thought useful to add to this thread.

Pius XII as a "Righteous Gentile"
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Q: Why do so many scholars and critics want to find Pius XII culpable in Nazi atrocities?

Rychlak: The "positio" concludes that there is a campaign to denigrate the personality and work of Pius XII. This should not, I think, be taken as an orchestrated campaign of critics working in conjunction.

Rather, many of the critics share a view of the world that runs counter to the Catholic Church, and they have tried to advance their view and discredit the Church by denigrating Pope Pius XII.

Read through to the end of most of these books and you will find that the authors are critical not only of Pope Pius XII, but also the late Pope John Paul II, the positions expressed by Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI, traditional Catholic doctrines of papal supremacy, the all-male priesthood and especially Catholic sexual teachings.

In fact, because the Catholic Church stands as the pre-eminent voice advancing the very concept of ultimate truth, it is their main target -- not Pius or any other individual
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Back to the title of the book, I only have to add that "half a million" is probably underestimated a figure based only on those people we have overwhelming quantities of documentation about. Current estimates, based on new evidence emerging from research - although hindered by the raging offensive against Pius XII - seem to indicate that it will be possible to prove at least 800.000 people saved, and that 1 million is not an unlikely figure.

However, while even 500.000 is more than any other institution - especially those hostile to the Holy See - can claim to have done during those terrible years, it is useful to keep in mind that all sorts of lies about our past aim at fighting against Christ and souls in the present.

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Seems to me that in recent decades the Vatican has given in to our fast living culture and speeds along beatifications for way to many candidates. This waters down the true saintly persons - in the mold of a Mother Theresa for example -just my opinion. What exactly justifies beatification for this particular pope?

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Seems to me that in recent decades the Vatican has given in to our fast living culture and speeds along beatifications for way to many candidates.

Well, there has to be some "aggiornamento" now and then... :wink: At least the vatican doesn't give in to our fast changing opinions on faith and morals, and that's what we need. To call the Vatican "fast" however, seems to me a bit of a stretch.
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This waters down the true saintly persons - in the mold of a Mother Theresa for example -just my opinion.

Doubtlessly all beatified/canonized people are likely to be saintly persons, not only those we think as more in tune with our tastes. OTOH, judging from the speed of Mother Theresa's beatification, sometimes giving in to fast modern times doesn't prevent true saintlypersons from receiving due honor. It is legitimate to ask whether so many beatifications are the best thing from a purely pastoral point of view. Maybe the Church should focus more on giants like Mother Theresa or St. Pio of Petrelcina or St. Josemaria Escrivà de Balaguer. What the Pope decides is ok with me though.
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What exactly justifies beatification for this particular pope?

I guess we'll have to read the Acta of the process, which is said to be one of the most gigantic documentations for a candidate to altars ever. At any rate, he was a man of stunning mystic and ascetic life. His life was one of tough penance, all spent in defense of the pureness of the Catholic faith and of the rights of the Church as a priest, a bishop and a nuncio, and then as a Cardinal and a Secretary of State and then as one of the greatest Popes ever. His virtues have been confirmed by a number of miracles attributed to his intercession while what he did for the weak and the poor of Italy and of the world is beyond discussion. He is said to have had frequent visions of the trinity, of Jesus and Mary and of the Guardian Angel.

It is impossible to summarize here all his merits, but his writings show a deep strong doctrine, many of them anticipated the contents of the Second Vatican Council (the one that actually took place) and even of the magisterium of John Paul II about family and temporal order. He proclaimed the dogma of the Assumption of Mary, he found the relics of St. Peter that were thought lost, he protected the arts, reformed Liturgy, supported the persecuted Church in communist countries and he saved more Jews than any other institution on earth with great risks for his personal safety, he also saved the town of Rome from bombings by both sides. He truly became all things to all, to save at least some (1 Cor ). Even before his death he was known among the people of Rome as the "angelic pastor" and the "angel of Rome", whose incredibly strong leadership was united to the burning charity of a chaste soul.

In conclusion, he was the epitome of the holy pastor, a monument to papacy. I guess that's not the least reason why he was chosen as a target in the war on papacy under the appearance of a quarrel about the Church in WWII, as shown in some posts of this thread.
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Much of what I have heard about Pius XII has been from the secular press, which has never been complimentary. I know he was the last Pope that might be termed a 'mystic', given to visions and intense, subjective religious experience... and likely the last to live in such a cloistered environment that characterised pontifical life prior to the modern media onslaught, which Popes like John XXIII and JPII embraced to their great advantage. I believe a 'modern' Pope, one post Vatican II and in the glare of the global media spotlight would have taken an aggressive and high profile stance against the Nazis. Pius XII has probably run into the problem of being a transitional figure, of not meeting expectations for the job that were developed after his death. For him the role was one of using the facilities of the Church to provide sanctuary where possible, as it has for many other social upheavals in history, rather than as a bully pulpit against fascism.. which likely would have little effect under the circumstances anyway. That war had to be won battlefield, not in the cathedral.

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Karl, you summed this up very nicely - :D
If being a 'mystic' and a pious prayerful man is enough to qualify for beatification I suspect our churches and monestry are filled with such fine folks. While I recognize that Pius XII perhaps symbolizes a type of ideal for many of our more conservative leaning traditional catholic brothers and sisters, I honestly do not think this alone qualifies for consideration.

Let me submit a recent candidate - that from my perspective would spark the right kind of debate - why not initiate beatification for Dr. Martin Luther King.
I would find such a proposal far more meaningful on so many levels than to just go ahead with the same old same old.

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Karl,

but the point is that he was neither silent nor cloistered. As a matter of fact Popes had been cloistered in Italy only in the period going from the unification of Italy- by heavily anti-Catholic forces in 1870 - to the Lateran Treaty of 1929. Before and after that sad era of violent persecution, Popes would often get out from the Apostolic Palaces and vistit the people of Rome, hospitals and schools. They would travel throughout Europe when possible, and very often in Italy. The Blessed Pius IX was a well now traveler Pope, who pushed the construction of telegraphs, trains and railways in a time when many other states still lacked them. In spite of myths and canards, Popes have always been authentic "techies", often funding research with their papal finances.

Keep in mind that from the end of 1700 till the end of WWII Europe went throught a dark age of totalitarianism and anti-Catholic persecution, when Popes had to try to survive more than to travel.

But back to Pius XII, he was hated by the nazis long before being elected the Successor of Peter - he'd been the nuncio to Germany: he is known to have written the draft version of Mit Brennedner Sorge and his speeches and writings are there to witness is unwavering opposition to the Nazis. Of 44 speecehs given as a nuncio, 40 were against Hitler.

Also, he made a large use of the radio and of all the available media. Vatican Radio was founded one year after his appointment as the Secretary of State and because of his personal insistence on the need of modern means of communications. Under his guidance, Vatican Radio became the only free radio-station in continental Europe. Goebbels had vowed to destroy it.

Despite today's distorting lens, he was considered a Pope audaciously open to technology. His radio-messages made the impression that JPII's TV performances did in our time. His election was the fisrt in history to be broadcast and that was huge news. Not only he was never a transitional Pope but he managed to guide the Church and keep her united through tremendously boisterous times, and to save a million innocents. When Pius XI died, he seemed the natural choice, such was his prestige. Not because there weren't other good candidates - there were a lot - but because his steel-strong personality, his experience united to his already well known personal holiness made him the perfect Pope for the worst century ever. No surprise Hitler wanted to kidnap and kill him. At the moment of his death he had not only met expectations but was already considered one of the greatest Popes of all times, not only by Catholics, but also by the founding fathers of the State of Israel.

Until the infamous and defamatory work by the German "progressivist" Catholic Rolf Hochnut came out in the sixities the glory of Pius XII had shined unstained, except maybe among the usual suspects who had problems with the papacy in itself. Now we know the role Mounier had in that. I am waiting for other now revered names to come out.

As explained even by Jewish intellectuals in some articles quoted in this thread, the myth of the Pope's silence and even indulgence toward the nazis is an unsubstantiated claim of "Catholic" origin aiming at the "renewal" - read: end - of papacy as an institution.

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Let me submit a recent candidate - that from my perspective would spark the right kind of debate - why not initiate beatification for Dr. Martin Luther King.
I would find such a proposal far more meaningful on so many levels than to just go ahead with the same old same old.


Grega,

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. cannot be beatified or canonized because he wasn't Roman Catholic. While I admire him tremendously, he's outside the jurisdiction of the Vatican, so to speak. And I have a feeling the Baptists wouldn't be too happy about one of their own being co-opted by the Catholic Church. 8-)

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Let me submit a recent candidate - that from my perspective would spark the right kind of debate - why not initiate beatification for Dr. Martin Luther King.
I would find such a proposal far more meaningful on so many levels than to just go ahead with the same old same old.


My coffee nearly came out my nose I laughed so hard when I read this. You're not serious, are you?

Barring the fact that Rev. King was not Catholic, it is a well-known fact that he was often less-than-holy in his personal life. Even the last issue of Time Magazine which focused on King was very frank about the fact that he was an adulterer.

I don't say this to denigrate Dr. King or his life in any way, but even small, personal things like this are a major consideration in the canonization process. (If you are indeed serious) the very idea that Dr. King would be "pit against" Pope Pius XII as a candidate for canonization in the Catholic Church by someone who says they are a Catholic truly blows me away.

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looks like the book by prof. Rychlak mentioned in my above post of Jan 12 is gaining more and more well-deserved attention. Chapter 1 of said book is now available online. You can read it here

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The Charity of Pope Pius XII , by Eugenio Zolli, the former Chief Rabbi of Rome who upon his conversion to Catholicism chose to take the name of Eugenio in honor of Pius XII (Eugenio Pacelli), whose personal holiness and relentless efforts to save jews (documented: over 700.000; estimated: around 1M) he witnessed in person.

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Documents: Pius XII Favored a Jewish Homeland in Palestine
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The New York-based Pave the Way Foundation explained that in 1917, Archbishop Eugenio Pacelli met with Nahum Sokolow, president of the World Zionist organization and arranged for Sokolow to meet with Pope Benedict XV to discuss a Jewish Homeland. In a passionate report, Sokolow wrote of his audience on May 12, 1917:

“I was first of all received by Msgr. Eugenio Pacelli, Secretary for Extraordinary Affairs, and had a few days later a long conference with Cardinal Secretary of State Gasparri. Both meetings were extraordinarily friendly and positive. I don’t tend towards credulity or exaggerations and still I can’t avoid to stress that this revealed an extraordinary amount of friendship: to grant a Jew and representative of Zionism with such a promptness a private audience which took so long and was of such a warmth and took place with all assurance of sympathy, both for the Jews in general and for Zionism in special, proves that we don’t need to expect any obstacles which can’t be overcome from the side of the Vatican. The Pope asked me, ‘Pacelli told me about your mission; do you want to tell me any more details?’" (File A 18/25 in the Main Archive of Yad Vashem)

A statement from Pave the Way further noted: On November 15, 1917, Nuncio Pacelli acted on a urgent request for his intervention from the Jewish community of Switzerland from what was feared would be an Ottoman Massacre of Jews of Palestine. Pacelli asked the German government, who was allied with the Ottoman Turks, for protection for the Jews of Palestine. Pacelli was successful in gaining promised protection of the Jews from the German government “even with the use of arms.”
Pacelli met with Sokolow again on Feb. 15, 1925, and arranged another meeting with Cardinal Pietro Gasparri on the subject of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. In 1926, Pacelli urged all Catholics to join the pro-Palestine movement in Germany with such notable members as Albert Einstein, Thomas Mann, Konrad Adenauer, and Fr. Ludwig Kaas.

PTWF learned of the existence of one very interesting document, still unpublished, which may show Pius XII’s attitude about a Jewish homeland. In 1944, Pius XII opposed the general feeling of his Secretary of State, when he responded to Monsignor Domenico Tardini’s written warning against helping the Jews establish a homeland. Pius XII wrote by hand, “The Jews need a land of their own.” This document is in the closed section of the Vatican Library and will not be available until the archives are fully open.

The foundation explained that researchers have also uncovered the 1946 speech Pius XII delivered to a delegation of Arabs who came to Rome to dissuade the Pope from endorsing a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Pius XII ended the meeting leaving the Arab delegation greatly disappointed by clearly stating, “As we also condemn several times in the past, the persecution that fanatical anti-Semitism unleashed against the Jewish people.”

According to research by the Raoul Wallenberg Foundation, it was Pius XII who “paved the way” for the Catholic Countries members of the United Nations to positively vote in favor of the partitioning of Palestine in November 1947. We have uncovered news articles about the Vatican encouraging Spain to recognize the Jewish state in 1955.


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PostPosted: 12 Mar 2012 12:14 
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Too long overdue!

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As usual, facts are stubborn things and in time, they expose the artists of lie and deception for what they are. I revive this thread because new - but not at all unpredictable - information is emerging of one of the two sides of the campaign against the Venerable Pope Pius XII: the role played by the propaganda machine of the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics).

The other side is the role played by liberal "Catholics" in keeping the black legend alive, not just out of hatred for that specific pope, but of the papacy as an institution and the Church as founded by Our Lord. it's the same agenda that tried to shipwreck the Church in the crazy years following Vatican II (see above articles).

Thanks to them, a saintly Pope who emerged from the dark years of WWII as one of the absolute heroes of that conflict, universally applauded throughout the '40s and the 50's for his humanitarian efforts and for saving countless Jews when powerful nations had done next to nothing when there was time, became "Hitler's Pope" during the '60s. The praise and thanks of the founders of Israel, the overwhelming mass of wartime documents of the Allies were obliterated by the firepower of the media and the liberal elites. The re-ordering of Vatican archives (initiated by then Card. Ratzinger back in the '80s) was in many regards the beginning of the end for many of these black legends, old and new.

Do read this article:

THE TRUTH ABOUT POPE PIUS XII. Former Spy Speaks on Plot to Frame Pontiff
http://www.zenit.org/article-35380?l=english

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Fabrizio,

I'll be looking forward to that book. Rychlak also wrote Righteous Gentiles: How Pius XII and the Catholic Church Saved Half a Million Jews from the Nazis (2005) and [i]Hitler, the War, and the Pope (2,000/i], books I've yet to get. I've yet to get my hands on these but his 2005 book has received excellent reviews for defending the Pope.

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