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If Obama loses the election do you think there will be riots?

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Hadn't thought about it but I suppose it is possible.

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If Obama wins there were be riots in a few years.

America will become Greece, Spain, etc.

How does 24% unemployment sound to you? Ask the Spanish.

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If Obama loses, some will break into good riots, of dancing and celebrating in the streets. Block parties with barbecue and music. His supporters, I think, will do like CNN reporters the last time Bush won, which was get choked up and teary-eyed. Then they will say the next day that every problem in the country was created by Romney and San Francisco will have a huge protest march over the drones killing people, unaware that Obama is sending them.

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If Obama loses the election do you think there will be riots?

No. Why would you think so?

When is the last time there were riots over the results of a US presidential election?

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If Obama loses the election do you think there will be riots?

No. Why would you think so?

When is the last time there were riots over the results of a US presidential election?
Yes, there will be riots, arson and looting; certain left-wing morons, sorry, "activists" have been stirring that pot for over a month now. I also suspect, based on the strong sales of arms and ammunition, there will be deaths. Glad I don't live in the city.

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I'm going to riot but very nicely.

Actually, I don't think so and can't imagine why there should be. On the other hand, I guess the occupy wall street type people might take to the streets to protest and that can lead to anything. However, I believe our history of peaceful transfers of power, even in the face of resignations and assassinations, will continue .

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Yes, there will be riots, arson and looting; certain left-wing morons, sorry, "activists" have been stirring that pot for over a month now. I also suspect, based on the strong sales of arms and ammunition, there will be deaths. Glad I don't live in the city.

Strong sales of arms and ammunition is good, no?

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Yes, there will be riots, arson and looting; certain left-wing morons, sorry, "activists" have been stirring that pot for over a month now. I also suspect, based on the strong sales of arms and ammunition, there will be deaths. Glad I don't live in the city.

Strong sales of arms and ammunition is good, no?


For some, probably not those caught in the crossfire. I prefer the sales not be to criminals or the insane but I also know some nervous, trigger-happy "good guys".

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Strong sales of arms and ammunition is good


It is unnecessary to go out and make special purchases if you are adequately stocked beforehand :roll:

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Strong sales of arms and ammunition is good


It is unnecessary to go out and make special purchases if you are adequately stocked beforehand :roll:


Bob, everyone has to start somewhere! It's these nubees that I worry about a bit, unpredictable and likely unskilled, that should worry the bad guys too.

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Schultzz,

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If Obama loses the election do you think there will be riots?

No. Why would you think so?

When is the last time there were riots over the results of a US presidential election?



What David said.

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SCHULTZZKOPF wrote:
If Obama loses the election do you think there will be riots?


Maybe in the arab spring areas.

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Has anyone read the riot threats on Twitter? I have seen the online articles about it, don't have a link,but if I did it would not fit the guidelines to post on this forum. There are several people calling for riots and for the assassination of Romney if Obama loses. It's been kept out of the media, but the Twitter accounts are real people who have thousands of tweets not recent made up accounts.

I hope they are just blowing steam and not really going to riot if Romney wins.

And Bob Maher (sp?) from MSNBC has encouraged people to go after Romney supporters...

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I would not pay any attention to tweets. :hold:

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There have been violent outburst from organizing on social media. I don't think it should be discounted. Hopefully, it's a lot of loud mouths and not real organization.

But there have been groups that have organized/robbed places through social media so it could be possible.

I was a child during the riots in the 60's, but my parents told me about it and it would be terrible if something like that happens.

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It is almost unfortunate we will not be able to put this to the test. I am still nearly certain that Obama will be re-elected.

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Considering the reaction to the verdict in the Rodney King case, do you think the reaction to an Obama loss would be less violent?

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It is almost unfortunate we will not be able to put this to the test. I am still nearly certain that Obama will be re-elected.


Northern Virginia leans heavily for Obama as do most urban areas. These areas as well favor abortion and homosexual sex...

The economic outlook in that area which includes the outskirts of Washington DC (Which I consider Sodom & the Tower of Babel combined) probably seems quite rosy with all the taxes collected and money printed to subsidize the ever growing bloated government. Talk about trickle down...

Anyway, from my vantage point --I am sure Obama will lose.

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I would not pay any attention to tweets.


Neither would I, but the police should. If you remember the recent Sydney Moslem riot it was organised at short notice over twitter. It was largely how the police were able to identify and arrest those who incited the riot.

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Considering the reaction to the verdict in the Rodney King case, do you think the reaction to an Obama loss would be less violent?



Yes, certainly. Mr Obama's loss would not be the result of a manifest injustice. Mr Obama's loss would not have involved violence. Most importantly, it would not be seen as having been due to racism.

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Most importantly, it would not be seen as having been due to racism.
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Quite right Bob. Is there an emoticon for ridiculous?

The only thing I find odd is that some believe there will only be riots if Mr. Obama loses.

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The only thing I find odd is that some believe there will only be riots if Mr. Obama loses.




I don't see it any other way.

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I think the racial tensions are so great in this country as a result of Obama's divisiveness, his use of anything and everything to maintain power. He has fomented such great anger and hatred between the races, the classes, the parties. Now he must somehow govern this mess he has created. I don't believe for one minute it is going to end peacefully. Especially as it looks like Romney will win the popular vote.

Mr. Obama will have to contend with all the hatred he has stirred up.

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Most importantly, it would not be seen as having been due to racism.
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Are you saying that, had he lost, it would have been seen as having been due to racism?

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I wouldn't be surprised to see some unrest similar to what you would see after a city's sports team wins the national title.

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Mormon riots a comin'. :wink:

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Are you saying that, had he lost, it would have been seen as having been due to racism?



It has been my experience that saying to a person of color, even one you know fairly well, that you think Obama is a bad president. You will be accused of being a Racist.

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It has been my experience that saying to a person of color, even one you know fairly well, that you think Obama is a bad president. You will be accused of being a Racist.


Recently, a young black customer at work asked me,

"Who you voting for?"
"Romney, of course" I said.
"Me too."
"Really?"
"Yeah. I don't believe in black power."

The two black women with him were laughing a short distance away.

I was smart enough not to continue that conversation.

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Mormon riots a comin'.


If so, I believe the history of your country suggests they will be on the receiving end.

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If so, I believe the history of your country suggests they will be on the receiving end.

You act like the very founder of Mormonism was killed in a riot...

...oh wait...

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You act like the very founder of Mormonism was killed in a riot...

...oh wait...


Chuckle.


FWIW, I got to know several Mormons fairly well while I was on active duty. I found them to be good citizens, good family men, faithful to their beliefs, and charitable to the needy.

Of course I do not share their theological beliefs, but aside from that I have no gripes with them.

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Me neither. I have gotten to know several Mormons and would love to have them as neighbors.

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Me neither. I have gotten to know several Mormons and would love to have them as neighbors.

John Paul was fond of reminding us that all religions have some degree of Truth in them, and their various emphases on the facets of that Truth can be helpful to us in remembering those aspects in the context of the fullness of Truth, our Catholic faith. My oldest Christian friend, whose witness was essential in my own conversion, used to say that Mormons knew the Bible better than most Christians, and Salt Lake City has some of the lowest crime rates and cleanest streets and was just plain one of the most pleasant places to live in the country.

Mormons remind us that the strongest witness to the Truth is our behavior. To the point where you really do wonder if there isn't something to Mormonism because so many of them are just consistently good people.

Then you look at their just crazy theology, but for a half second there, you wonder...

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Also while I was on active duty I knew several young and frisky single guys and gals) who got stationed at Hill AFB in Utah (just outside Ogden). To a person they all described it as BORING. No night life, no place to hang out etc.

All of which make me wish I had gotten stationed there.

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I found them to be good citizens, good family men, faithful to their beliefs, and charitable to the needy.

Of course I do not share their theological beliefs, but aside from that I have no gripes with them.


That has been my experience.

If memory serves correct, the Mormons were a primary funding and support source for California's recent Proposition 8 to protect marriage. No doubt the leftists love Mormons for this.

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I read where Billy Graham removed the Mormons from his list of cults. I will try to verify that and provide a citation.

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I read where Billy Graham removed the Mormons from his list of cults. I will try to verify that and provide a citation.

Here is the news story on CNN:

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Shortly after Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney enjoyed cookies and soft drinks with the Rev. Billy Graham and his son Franklin Graham on Thursday at the elder Graham's mountaintop retreat, a reference to Mormonism as a cult was scrubbed from the website of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.

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I read where Billy Graham removed the Mormons from his list of cults. I will try to verify that and provide a citation.

Here is the news story on CNN:

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Shortly after Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney enjoyed cookies and soft drinks with the Rev. Billy Graham and his son Franklin Graham on Thursday at the elder Graham's mountaintop retreat, a reference to Mormonism as a cult was scrubbed from the website of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.


...this was only 'news' when the media was pumping the leftist Obama by among many things disparaging the right.

This was a 'hot' item along with Obama's superhuman handling of hurricane Sandy -this while Benghazi was but a footnote at best...

Obama was reelected -time to move on the more important 'news' like billionaires giving people raises...

:roll:

P.S. I recommend you change your 'news' sources.

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P.S. I recommend you change your 'news' sources.

Are you saying this story is not true?

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P.S. I recommend you change your 'news' sources.

Are you saying this story is not true?


Never questioned it being true. The veracity of the story is not what I pointed out -maybe you can address that?

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P.S. I recommend you change your 'news' sources.

Are you saying this story is not true?

Never questioned it being true. The veracity of the story is not what I pointed out -maybe you can address that?

It was just something I heard. Since I originally posted it without a citation, I thought it was incumbent on me to provide one. Sorry if that offends you.

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Thanks. I hadn't seen that.

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In a section of the website called Billy Graham's My Answer there had been the question "What is a cult?"

Answer: "A cult is any group which teaches doctrines or beliefs that deviate from the biblical message of the Christian faith."

"Some of these groups are Jehovah's Witnesess, Mormons, the Unification Church, Unitarians, Spritualists, Scientologists, and others," the site continued.



Hmm. The bit that I've highlighted applies equally well both to Mormons and to Graham's own "church". Scripture is the source for our beliefs concerning the Eucharist, Marian devotion, the existence of purgatory... all of which Graham denies.

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