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Pro-abortion ‘Occupy’ group disrupts March for Life Youth Rally


This is bizarre to me. If you disagree with somebody, fine, go have your own rally, but don't interrupt others'. I am also kind of surprised to see young men so pro-abortion.

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Grace

As to the past, let us entrust it to God's mercy, the future to Divine Providence. Our task is to live holy the present moment. - Saint Gianna Molla

Grace,



Why? First, the availability of abortion provides them the ultimate out if they get a female pregnant (I use "female" because women and girls get pregnant). Many unintended pregnancies are ended with abortion through the pressuring of the females by the males who copulated with them. And it probably gets the young men kudos from the crowd that is all about sexual freedom and license in the first place. Not a bad crowd to be in bed with if the activity of the nether region is of primary concern, which we know young men tend to have in disproportionate numbers.

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Dean
Most people's sense of history goes back to breakfast time - Benjamin Netanyahu

Dean,
Yes, I see what you mean, but are young men really that calculating about it?
I know that lots of young women (and middle-aged and old women) think that availability of abortion is important to their sense of freedom and equality (feminist stuff) and I am not surprised, just sad, to see young women buy into the pro-abortion agenda. It is just weird to me to see young men chanting "Our bodies, our choice," since it is not their body.

I was also wondering what they could have done? I mean, if this is going to be standard now, then pro-lifers need to be prepared to all start singing a hymn or chanting something. (I'm not criticising them, mind you, because they didn't expect such a thing, but it seems like they need a plan for future).

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Grace

As to the past, let us entrust it to God's mercy, the future to Divine Providence. Our task is to live holy the present moment. - Saint Gianna Molla

Grace,

I am reminded of the silence with which Jesus faced the Sanhedrin, Pilate, and Herod. What the pro-life assembly did was, in my opinion, correct.

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Dean
Most people's sense of history goes back to breakfast time - Benjamin Netanyahu

Dean, well, yes, maybe my idea would degenerate into a shouting match.

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Grace

As to the past, let us entrust it to God's mercy, the future to Divine Providence. Our task is to live holy the present moment. - Saint Gianna Molla

Which is why I do not participate in these events. I'd likely wind up at the iron bar hotel.

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Bob C

Surprised at young men being involved? All I can say is that my university chaplain had, in his day, been a post-Christian eco-feminist. Whatever that is.

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Jules Xx


What will become of sinners?

Hi Grace,

I would suspect that it's bizarre to you because you believe that we still live in a society in which "freedom of speech" and "freedom of religion" are fundamental concepts. I'm not sure that's true anymore. Yes, this country used to believe that if you disagree with someone, "fine - go have your own rally." But today, we have instead groups like this: http://ffrf.org/ -> The "freedom from religion" group. They don't just believe in their right to believe what they want. They believe they have a "right" to be "free" from your beliefs as well. Check out their website and then step back and think about it for a moment. I mean, really think about it. What exactly does it mean? "Freedom from religion"? What if we were to start a "freedom from atheism" group? What is the foundational belief of a group that starts with "freedom from"? What does it mean to say that one has a right to be free of someone else's beliefs? How exactly does that square with a belief in freedom of speech and freedom of religion?

We used to believe in our right to practice our own beliefs. Apparently now we are a nation in which we believe we not only have a right to believe in our own beliefs, but also have a right to be "free" of another's beliefs.

How is that not a first step on the path to fascism?

I suspect it's just a matter of time until we have a "Freedom from Catholicism" group.

Of course, some believe recent actions from the White House indicate that such a group already exists!

God Bless,
Barb

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"Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes, not divine, but demonic." Pope Benedict XVI

Yes. That web site is sobering-- and scary. Their list of "accomplishments" is sad. They are bringing destruction of the fabric of our culture, and they don't even realise it.

That is not going to work unless atheism/secularism is reclassified as a "belief," but right now people seem to (wrongly IMO) think atheism/secularism is neutral.



It fits under the umbrella of this ffr group. Their code for Catholicism seems to be a "pervasively sectarian social agency."

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Grace

As to the past, let us entrust it to God's mercy, the future to Divine Providence. Our task is to live holy the present moment. - Saint Gianna Molla