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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2008 06:04 
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I would have used "Loses" myself, but I would say that either is acceptable. Thus, I don't object to "Losses" and I didn't change it.

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Can - the ability to do something
May - permission to do something

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Also:

may be, might be: possibility
can be: capacity, power to do it
is being: full 'actuality'; the act is being done.

'Frank might speak German, but as far as i know he's from Brooklyn.'
'Frank can speak German - you just won't be quiet long enough to hear him speak it, Kirk.'
'Lo, Frank is speaking German, yea even now.'

Think of the British kids' show Bob the Builder. Only when he has the right tool for the job does the narrator say with confidence 'Yes, he can!'

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may be, might be: possibility

or maybe (one word): adverb: -- perhaps, possibly, conceivably, it could be (that), it is possible (that), for all one knows; literary peradventure, perchance. Example: "Maybe the bus will be on time today."

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Advice is a noun.
Advise is a verb.

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Rohrich wrote:
Advice is a noun.
Advise is a verb.

Does that hold true in the UK?

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LASaxman wrote:
Rohrich wrote:
Advice is a noun.
Advise is a verb.

Does that hold true in the UK?

They speak a similarly different language. :roll:

My understanding is that is the case in the UK also. You can C a noun but you cannot C a verb.

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Rohrich wrote:
LASaxman wrote:
Rohrich wrote:
Advice is a noun.
Advise is a verb.

Does that hold true in the UK?

They speak a similarly different language. :roll:

My understanding is that is the case in the UK also. You can C a noun but you cannot C a verb.

I was probably thinking about the "s" vs. "z" thing.

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LASaxman wrote:
Rohrich wrote:
LASaxman wrote:
Rohrich wrote:
Advice is a noun.
Advise is a verb.

Does that hold true in the UK?

They speak a similarly different language. :roll:

My understanding is that is the case in the UK also. You can C a noun but you cannot C a verb.

I was probably thinking about the "s" vs. "z" thing.


Enter advize advise in google and you get:

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Did you mean: advice advise


Though a number of pages shows up.

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Excellent topic! I'm a bit of a nerd, although I still have much to learn (don't we all?). I would like to be an English teacher someday. Yes, I know this sets me up to be scrutinized all the more. In my defense/defence (I prefer British spelling even though I'm American, you might notice I use both), it is after midnight, so I'm excused from any and all mistakes in this thread. (Not really, I'm just making a lame attempt to justify any mistakes I might make. ;) )

The theory of a change in American English pronunciation is interesting. I once saw a film in which Jacqueline Kennedy was giving a tour of the White House, and I remember thinking to myself, "she pronounces things really weird for an American." But if you go back and look at any movie from... oh, I'd say the 60's or earlier... you'll find they pronounced things differently. Specifically, they used better diction and more clearly pronounced the vowels. There was also a more noticeable difference in regional dialects, from what I can tell, and more of an agreement as to what is the "proper" way to say things. I took an interesting little test on Facebook recently, called "Which North American accent do you have?" It asked how I pronounce certain words, and then told me exactly where in the country I lived. It was eerily accurate. Obviously people do still speak according to their locale, but I would think that, with all the easy travel and "shrinking of the world" these days, dialects would become more muddled.

One of my pet peeves is the way younger people pronounce things. I'm only 25, and when I was in high school, it was just starting. Now it seems rampant. I'm not really sure how to explain it adequately, especially via text, but they tend to put a lot of "ell" sounds where they don't belong. When I was in school, I knew people who said "ill" instead of "eww" but they pronounced it sort of like "ull." They just seem to talk more with their mouths closed, more muffled, in the back of their throats... I'm not really sure how to describe it, but it annoys me! :( []

I'm sad to admit, I think the decline in quality of American English can also be attributed to one of my vices: the internet. It has gotten much worse with mobile phone "texting." I understand laziness with texting because you've got at least three letters on each button, so if you want to type the word "dear," you need to type d, wait two full seconds (or hit an extra button to skip to the next letter), then type the e, and so on. It's especially annoying with words that have a lot of repeated letters, like "mom." But laziness online is just laziness, in my humble opinion. The standard keyboard Americans use is designed to be as easy to use as possible, with the keys laid out in places where our brains are most likely to go for them, according to their use in our language. I do use the shortened form of phrases when I'm chatting online, such as "brb" for "be right back," but that's about it. I almost never shorten words. I cringe when I see stuff like "how r u 2day? lol, wutsup? kewl"

Sorry for the side tangent. My point is that these sub-cultures have seeped into mainstream use. Have you seen those commercials for the cell phone? I can't even remember which company it is, but the commercials are hilarious. The lady asks her elderly mother, "who are you texting?" and the old woman answers, "idk, my bff, Rose!" (translation: I don't know, my best friend forever, Rose!" -- at least, I think that's what the bff is...) The commercials crack me up because they're true, and believe it or not, I have actually heard people talk that way, out loud. While it's useful for the medium of text messages, it has started to become its own language, with which people are replacing normal English. Anyway, moving on to examples...

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The noun use of 'affect' is indeed often used in psychology:
Emotion, or the external display of emotion or mood.
"She showed appropriately sad affect after her father's death." "He seemed completely devoid of affect."
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Not to step on any toes, but I would like to make a slight amendment to an earlier post. The word "to" is not actually a modification of a verb. It is the infinitive form of a verb. For example, in Spanish, "ar" is a word ending commonly used to denote the infinitive:
Hablar = to talk (infinitive)
Halbo = I talk (first person)
Hablamos = we talk (plural first-and-second person)
I know that probably doesn't make much difference to a native English-speaker, but for those whose native tongue is something else, and who have perhaps taken English courses, this might be more significant.
"He wanted to swim yesterday, but it was rainy." "I love to take long baths when I want to relax."
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Whose and who's:

Who's is a contraction.
"Who's going to buy these shirts? They have holes in them!" "She wanted to know who's planning to attend the party."

Whose is a term of posession.
"Whose muddy boots are these?" "Whose book did you borrow?"
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Accept and except:

Accept: to receive or admit.
"I will accept your apology, and I forgive you." "Congratulations, you have been accepted into the university."

Except, as a preposition, means "but."
"I like all fruits except bananas." "There is nothing left in the old apartment except the bed frame."

Except, as a conjunction, is used to indicate an exemption from something previously stated.
"This song reminds me of my favourite one, except it is faster." "She will accept all students, except those unwilling to learn."

Except, as a verb, means to exclude or omit. This usage is rarer.
Examples: "I will except the blue marbles from my collection because I don't like blue." "The diabetic woman has excepted the sugar from her cookie recipe."
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Well and good:

Well, besides being something from which we draw water, is an adverb. That is, it describes a verb.
"The artist paints portraits very well." "The song was sung very well."

Good is an adjective. That is, it describes a noun.
"The artist paints good portraits." "This is a good book."
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This may be debatable, but also in words starting with "h" with a vowel sound when the "h" is silent: An historic record.


I've never pronounced "historic" without the h, nor have I ever heard anyone else do so, but I've always wondered why it's sometimes preceded with "an" in print.

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We also say an f, h, m, n, r, s, and x, but a U. :lol:


That's because the letters by themselves start with vowel sounds. I know there are actual spellings for individual letters (aitch is h) but I'm not sure what all of them are. In any case, u starts with a y sound (we wouldn't say "an yellow bird").
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If it bothers you, you can always say, "Whenever someone feels sick, he or she can call the attending nurse."


That's what a lot of people do, but I find it to be inefficient. A single word would be more comfortable.

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Hi Jean-Marie,

I'm glad I read your post because I thought I was going deaf when listening to some American tv shows. Yes, the younger generation seems to attempt the impossible task of talking with their mouths closed.

I also deplore the demise of the "t" sound within words : A'lanta. And I find irritating the habit (especiallly among young female) of speaking every sentence as if it were a question: "I think everyone should try to be nice?"

As for spelling,well, my particular bête noire is PRINCIPLE, PRINCIPAL.

He is a man of PRINCIPLE.

His PRINCIPAL care is discipline. (PRINCIPAL = MAIN)

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Hi Jan Mari,

Sorry I mispelled your name!

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Sorry I mispelled your name!

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You did it again, Robert!

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Hi Ian,

Something wrong here! Qp!

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Haha, don't worry about the name. I know what you meant. :)

Oh yes, the incessant and inappropriate whiny questioning tone at the end of every sentence can be very grating. Not to mention the over-use of the word "like." That can be very distracting from the actual message the person is trying to communicate.

But those are all verbal, and this thread is about forum/text, so I'll stop sidetracking. :oops:

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I also deplore the demise of the "t" sound within words :


I actually find that this phenomenon tends to be cultural; for exmaple, it happens much more in Georgia than it does in Connecticut!

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You hit it right on the head. That's probably my biggest pet peeve of them all.

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I actually find that this phenomenon tends to be cultural; for exmaple, it happens much more in Georgia than it does in Connecticut!

Would exmaple describe a tree that decided to become a pine? :wink: :wink: :wink:

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Now that this thread has become active again, does anyone know the proper usage of the words "was" and "were" as in the following example:

If only she was smarter than a tree stump.

Or is it,

If only she were smarter than a tree stump.

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"was" is colloquial. "were" is more formal or literary. Many consider "was" incorrect.

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"was" is colloquial. "were" is more formal or literary. Many consider "was" incorrect.

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Robert,

What is the rule covering this? I believe it has something to to with the "if" clause, doesn't it. If you were making a simple statement it would be correct to say, "She was smarter than a tree stump."

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This thread reminds of of being back in my English Lit. class. :z

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If only she was smarter than a tree stump.

robdick wrote:
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"was" is colloquial. "were" is more formal or literary. Many consider "was" incorrect.

Robert

Robert,

What is the rule covering this? I believe it has something to to with the "if" clause, doesn't it. If you were making a simple statement it would be correct to say, "She was smarter than a tree stump."

David,

The verb "were" is in the subjunctive mood, while "was" is in the indicative. Subjunctive mood denotes that the action is hypothetical, hoped for or not yet realized. Subjuntive mood may be used in conditional clauses, but is not necessarily.

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I actually find that this phenomenon tends to be cultural; for exmaple, it happens much more in Georgia than it does in Connecticut!

Would exmaple describe a tree that decided to become a pine? :wink: :wink: :wink:


Ouch, touche. I guess I had that coming! :)

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Gentlemen,

Just as infuriating as the dropped “t” is a spoken “t” where none should be sounded (eg often). I actually find that this phenomenon tends to be cultural; for exmaple, it happens much more in the United States than elsewhere. :)

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Just as infuriating as the dropped “t” is a spoken “t” where none should be sounded (eg often). I actually find that this phenomenon tends to be cultural; for exmaple, it happens much more in the United States than elsewhere. :)


Well, by far the most annoying cultural phenomenon is that a good deal of us American's have a strange fascination with speaking in an Australian accent. If I here one more "bloke" mangling "Faaawwwsters - Australiaaaan for beeeeeaaar", I don't know what I am going to do with myself.

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Can you not edit on this forum? I have no idea why I typed "American's" instead of "Americans" but I can't find the edit button....

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JayneK wrote:
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If only she was smarter than a tree stump.

robdick wrote:
Hi Doug,

"was" is colloquial. "were" is more formal or literary. Many consider "was" incorrect.

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Robert,

What is the rule covering this? I believe it has something to to with the "if" clause, doesn't it. If you were making a simple statement it would be correct to say, "She was smarter than a tree stump."

David,

The verb "were" is in the subjunctive mood, while "was" is in the indicative. Subjunctive mood denotes that the action is hypothetical, hoped for or not yet realized. Subjuntive mood may be used in conditional clauses, but is not necessarily.


Jayne,

For those of us whose memory of such terms as "subjunctive" and "indicative" has been tagged, boxed and shelved in a dusty corner of our brains, can you help out with some examples? :)

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For those of us whose memory of such terms as "subjunctive" and "indicative" has been tagged, boxed and shelved in a dusty corner of our brains, can you help out with some examples? :)


The usual mood for verbs is indicative - verbs that make a statement of fact. The other common mood is imperative -verbs that are giving orders. Subjunctive is very rare in English. Most of the time it resembles past tense in form, so we tend not to notice it when it is there. The exceptions are first and third person of the verb "to be" and third person of other verbs.

Example:
Elrond proposed that Frodo go to Mordor.
Compare to indicative in:
Frodo went to Mordor.

The construction that David was asking about with "if" is called a counter-factual conditional. That means that "if" used with a subjunctive implies that one is stating a condition contrary to fact.

Example:
If you were happy, you wouldn't complain so much.
Compare to indicative in:
If you are happy and you know it, clap your hands.

By using the subjunctive, the speaker conveys that the one addressed is not happy.

Similarly, when Tevye sings "If I were a rich man" he is implying that he is not rich.

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I didn't do a very good job of explaining subjunctive. I even made some mistakes by trying to make a short post. You may be better off reading the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjunctive_mood

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Hmm. I think I'll go back to learning German. I don't remember learning any of this in my primary school.

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Hmm. I think I'll go back to learning German. I don't remember learning any of this in my primary school.

Dean,
I didn't learn this in primary school either. I was a linguistics major as an undergrad.

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Jon,

It can't be as bad as hearing Australians say "guy" when they mean bloke.

BTW: Apropos nothing at all, I don't know a single Australian who drinks Fosters.

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It can't be as bad as hearing Australians say "guy" when they mean bloke.


One little settlement near where i lived was called 'Singasinganilava' ('sails hanging out to dry'), where American sailors stayed (for reasons i've forgotten). It was the only place i'd encountered in Fiji where people naturally said 'guy' instead of the more usual 'mate'.

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It varies somwhat from one state to another. Australia-wide the most popular would be Victoria Bitter (which despite what it's name suggests is infact a larger).

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I have trouble in pronunciations. Such as "Colonel" which sounds like "kernel". What happened to the pronunciation of the two "o's" and first "l" in Colonel? Why don't we say "kolawnel"?

Also, the meanings of "blew", "blue". i.e. I am feeling BLUE because the wind BLEW my BLUE shirt off the line. . The meainings of words often times dictate the spelling of these, and other words. The word "long" could mean the length of something; or I "long" for you would mean "yearn". Some languages has words for everthing and are not misunderstood. I forgot where I heard it, but I understand one language, (Japanese, Chinese, or some country like that) has 4 or 5 different words just for a particular snowflake.


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Some languages has words for everthing and are not misunderstood. I forgot where I heard it, but I understand one language, (Japanese, Chinese, or some country like that) has 4 or 5 different words just for a particular snowflake.

You may be thinking of languages of people where snow is a central aspect of their lives – people who live in snowy country.

For example, Central Alaskan Yupik (or just Yup'ik Eskimo), one of five Eskimo languages has fifteen lexemes for snow.

Anything that is central to a culture will likely have many lexemes to describe the various differing aspects of that 'thing' that would not be even noticed by an outsider unfamiliar with the customs.

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...fifteen lexemes for snow.

I followed that link and read the definition of lexeme. I have to say that I still have NO idea what it is. :oops:

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don't worry!
It's the secret language of bigheads :(
I don't even know what ENGLISH is - supposed to be some noises some people make to communicate.
Science is about to discover what these noises are supposed to mean.
So what?!
I wonder why the world doesn't speak GERMAN in the first place anyway.
Ha - "lexemes" - who would need them?
I just shouted do my dog PLATZ and he perfectly understood and lay down.
Then I said LEXEMES and he didn't even lift one of his two eyelids.
So why on earth should anybody care about lexemes???

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Hey - hallooo - anybody in???

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you really seem to be all gone

but where on earth to???

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LASaxman wrote:
retsinab wrote:
...fifteen lexemes for snow.

I followed that link and read the definition of lexeme. I have to say that I still have NO idea what it is. :oops:


...whenever any of those pesty lexemes gets in my house, I swat them a good one and they never come back. :tsk:

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Mary wrote:
LASaxman wrote:
retsinab wrote:
...fifteen lexemes for snow.

I followed that link and read the definition of lexeme. I have to say that I still have NO idea what it is. :oops:


...whenever any of those pesty lexemes gets in my house, I swat them a good one and they never come back. :tsk:

Mary

Are they anything like legumes? Soy beans are one of the staple crops at Fox Farm! :wink: :roll: :wink:

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Hey - hallooo - anybody in???

Hola! We're back!

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Bruno-Maria Schulz wrote:
Hey - hallooo - anybody in???

Hola! We're back!

But from where? Image

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retsinab wrote:
LASaxman wrote:
Bruno-Maria Schulz wrote:
Hey - hallooo - anybody in???

Hola! We're back!

But from where? Image



Seclusion?

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Mary wrote:
retsinab wrote:
LASaxman wrote:
Bruno-Maria Schulz wrote:
Hey - hallooo - anybody in???

Hola! We're back!

But from where? Image



Seclusion?

Mary

Speaking for me, more like confusion!

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retsinab wrote:
Mary wrote:
retsinab wrote:
LASaxman wrote:
Hola! We're back!

But from where? Image



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Mary

Speaking for me, more like confusion!


could be worse...intrusion, maybe? :tsk:

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LASaxman wrote:
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...fifteen lexemes for snow.

I followed that link and read the definition of lexeme. I have to say that I still have NO idea what it is. :oops:


Ahhh, lexemes! Now I know the plural! Nobody I know has ever owned more than one at a time.

They seem like a very nice car, but really - nothing more than a Toyota with better upholstery and a different logo. :wink:

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LASaxman wrote:
retsinab wrote:
...fifteen lexemes for snow.

I followed that link and read the definition of lexeme. I have to say that I still have NO idea what it is. :oops:


Ahhh, lexemes! Now I know the plural! Nobody I know has ever owned more than one at a time.

They seem like a very nice car, but really - nothing more than a Toyota with better upholstery and a different logo. :wink:


Well, I heard there are some new models on the market...there's morphemes and phonemes and my son-in-law says he saw a grapheme last week!!

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Where the heck have you been?!
But no-one revealed what lexemes are anyhow.
Well, my dict tells me, it's a "Vorlegemesser" in real language ]de[ ;)
That's some kind of serving knife when dining in a first class restaurant - (or our house ;) ).

A damn nuisance is, that I only today got a note this thread is going on.
Now I wonder, if in the other threads
viewtopic.php?f=62&t=56540
and here
viewtopic.php?f=62&t=56468
had anything been going on :-/

Other threads too are orphaned :(
what's up?

Well - many, as soon as they tink the problem touches them selves, are shy to reply, or afraid to give away privacy or afraid others might think they're silly.
I don't mind posting stupid answers though - do alike ;)

Afraid to give away privacy; that's a great difference between Americans and Europeans. Here - with best law-protected privacy in Germany - is no such horror. Banks carry the risk - not bank-customers.
I just wrote to an US-friend about the huge difference here and there in
"identity theft" which he explained to me as severe problem in the US.

Laws protect here a lot more of "identity theft" than there.

But still, I now know why there is a proper phobia in the USA of mailing, or even writing in mails the right name. ;) (Which to us would be utterly insulting).
I don't mind in the meantime, for I after many years now "know" my US friends and their prudences :) :) :) (what's plural of prudence?)
Love Bruno (my real name! ;)

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