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Carmelite

Post subject: Vatican official makes new plea for 'reform of the reform'

Posted: 10 Mar 2009 15:50

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Archbishop Malcolm Ranjith, the secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, cites a flawed understanding of Vatican II teachings and the influence of secular ideologies are reasons to conclude that-- as then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger said in 1985-- "the true time of Vatican II has not yet come." Particularly in the realm of the liturgy, Archbishop Ranjith says, "The reform has to go on."
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Specifically, Archbishop Ranjith writes:

Some practices which Sacrosanctum Concilium had never even contemplated were allowed into the Liturgy, like Mass versus populum, Holy Communion in the hand, altogether giving up on the Latin and Gregorian Chant in favor of the vernacular and songs and hymns without much space for God, and extension beyond any reasonable limits of the faculty to concelebrate at Holy Mass. There was also the gross misinterpretation of the principle of "active participation."
http://www.catholicculture.org/news/fea ... cnum=60291

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Seamas O Dalaigh

Post subject: Re: Vatican official makes new plea for 'reform of the reform'

Posted: 10 Mar 2009 16:19

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Kim,

Thanks for that.

From the same link:

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Basic concepts and themes like Sacrifice and Redemption, Mission, Proclamation and Conversion, Adoration as an integral element of Communion, and the need of the Church for salvation--all were sidelined, while Dialogue, Inculturation, Ecumenism, Eucharist-as-Banquet, Evangelization-as-Witness, etc., became more important. Absolute values were disdained.

(My emphases - JD)

That is the crux of the problem. We now have two main factions: those who view the Mass as essentially a meal and those who know it is essentially a sacrifice. All other differences, liturgical, musical, stem from this.

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Post subject: Re: Vatican official makes new plea for 'reform of the reform'

Posted: 10 Mar 2009 22:32

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JMJ

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