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PostPosted: 25 Aug 2009 07:34 
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I found some information about the upcoming Hobbit movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_films

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I just read through the information and I can't wait! The Lord of the Rings films were so spectacular that these adaptations have really got to prove themselves! Interestingly, I remember being taken-a-back when they were first discussing making major films from The Lord of the Rings books. My thought was that this amazing literature would now be further lost to celluloid; young people (who don't read nearly enough for my liking anyway) would have further excuse not to pick up a book... it's so much easier to simply put on a DVD. What I found was quite the contrary, after the film's release I would see young people all the time reading The Lord of the Rings books; they have once again become gone into major circulation in our school library. I suspect the same will be true of the new Hobbit films.

Off topic, I'm quite dismayed at the relatively recent resurgence of vampire books, television programs and films among young people. It can't be anything but an unhealthy obsession with the occult, can it?

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
PostPosted: 14 Nov 2012 19:38 
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After three years ....

BUMP!!!!!!!

The first chapter of the Hobbit film trilogy, An Unexpected Journey, opens in one month! I reserved my ticket for opening weekend this evening.

I am venturing down to Bridgeport - about 40 minutes south of me - on the opening Saturday morning to have breakfast at Denny's and then see the movie at an 'early bird' showing at the Meadowbrook Mall Cinemark theater. Denny's is offering a Hobbit themed menu in connection with the movie -- but there are no Denny's restaurants here in Morgantown. (Yes, I'm giving in to crass commericalism. Sue me. :P )

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
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Denny's is offering a Hobbit themed menu in connection with the movie


Lembas washed down with Ent-draught. I'll bet you can hardly wait.

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
PostPosted: 19 Nov 2012 11:22 
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I really enjoyed this recent EWTN program. It's an hour of Professor Joseph Pearce discussing the Catholic views expressed in JRR Tolkien's The Hobbit.

http://viewpure.com/i7NVZ1OcrKQ

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I can't wait!! :)

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
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I can't wait!! :)

LOL Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, too, but Dr. Pearce pointed out that they've made it into 3 films, like the LotR, but The Hobbit is only one book. Hhmmm... I hope they didn't add a bunch of stuff that is not even in the book.

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LOL Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, too, but Dr. Pearce pointed out that they've made it into 3 films, like the LotR, but The Hobbit is only one book. Hhmmm... I hope they didn't add a bunch of stuff that is not even in the book.

Of course it has to be three movies ..... it's another opportunity for Peter Jackson to show off his (and my) land of birth! :P

The word on the street / among those who circle the New Zealand film industry is that he has indeed added some other things in, but that it works well ..... let us wait and see. It does seem rather incredible that one not so big book could spawn three feature films. And it does seem a high risk strategy after the outstanding success of the LOTR trilogy which could and did sustain three films.

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
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Simon,

Sir Peter has certainly come a long way since his splatstick days. I read somewhere he is a Thunderbirds fan, so he must be okay.

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
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I don't know about coming a long way ..... he still manages to splatter the gore around. It's just that he gets Weta Workshop to craft the weaponry used a bit more!

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2012 17:26 
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JRR Tolkien's estate is suing the makers of The Lord of the Rings and Hobbit movies for allegedly overstepping their merchandising rights by making gambling games based on the books' characters.

Tolkien's family and publisher HarperCollins are suing Warner Brothers, its subsidiary New Line Cinema and Saul Zaentz for $80 million.

In papers filed in a Los Angeles court, they accuse the defendants of copyright infringement and breach of contract.

They say the companies are entitled to develop and sell only tangible merchandise such as clothes, figurines and stationery, not downloadable video and gambling games.




http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-21/t ... es/4384794

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
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Seems odd to sue now. They've been making video games of LOtR for a few years now. I suspect more to the story

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
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I too can't wait for the new Hobbit movies. They will indeed be 3 movies - with parenthetical titles: An Unexpected Journey, The Desolation of Smaug and There & Back Again. It is my understanding that the book will be infused with some of the Lord of the Ring appendices and probably with original items as they did with Lord of the Rings. I can't wait. I hope that they bring it up to the time of Lord of the Rings so that it will flow smoothly into those movies.

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
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I too can't wait for the new Hobbit movies. They will indeed be 3 movies - with parenthetical titles: An Unexpected Journey, The Desolation of Smaug and There & Back Again. It is my understanding that the book will be infused with some of the Lord of the Ring appendices and probably with original items as they did with Lord of the Rings. I can't wait. I hope that they bring it up to the time of Lord of the Rings so that it will flow smoothly into those movies.



I liked LotR very much. Hated the scene when Aragorn let Frodo go off by himself into Mordor. I mean, give me a break. :tsk: :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-28/n ... rs/4395852

...and here is the air safety video referred to:

http://www.youfixittube.com/airnewzealand

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Seamas O Dalaigh wrote:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-28/nz-hit-by-tolkien-fever-as-hobbit-premiere-nears/4395852

...and here is the air safety video referred to:

http://www.youfixittube.com/airnewzealand



Dorks :)

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 Post subject: Re: The Hobbit Movie
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@ Lou - why did you hate that part?

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@ Lou - why did you hate that part?


Aragorn is the very essence of responsibility and duty. There is no way that he lets Frodo head off for Mordor alone. It is the only completely ridiculous scene in the movie. They should have stuck with the book.

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I see your point in that it kind of differs from the book but in the book as in the movie, Aragorn chose not to go after Frodo and Sam but to save Merry and Pippin so it ended up the same in the end. I liked it because it showed that no one was immune to the power of the ring, that Aragorn did what Boromir couldn't and it showed his loyalty to Frodo who covered his escape. And in fact, even in the book, Sam said that Frodo didn't want them to go and Aragorn says "the fate of the burden is on him. I don't think it is our part to drive him one way or another." So in that moment, in the book, he does let him go, even if it's not face to face. The face to face plays better in the movie.

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I saw the Hobbit tonight, and loved it! Quite exciting, well acted, and fairly faithful to Tolkien's work.

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Overall, very good. I was a nervous wreck by the end, though! All those battles and cliff-hangers (literally LOL). It was far darker than in my imagination when I read the book, but I don't think Jackson got it wrong necessarily. Just different.

Is it a different actor playing Elrond?

I was wondering before I saw it why it was rated PG-13. It is violent and would scare small children, that's for sure. I actually had a nightmare last night about Azog.

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Yes, I think that might be a different actor playing Elron! My wife hated the violence, which she thought was over-the-top. I was thinking that it was less violent than the Trilogy, but I'm not sure, it may just be that I've seen the others so many times that I've become immune to the violence in them. Jackson did deviate a bit from the book, which I have just re-read, but over all very well done, I think.

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I don't think it was a different actor playing Elrond. It is Hugo Weaving. He played also in the Matrix series.

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...and most memorably as Douglas Jardine in Bodyline. (Gary Sweet played Don Bradman.)

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Same actor.

I was not impressed by the unrealistic "Indiana Jones" escapes from falling rocks and disappearing ledges and falls from high places onto hard landings of rock, nor by the escape of all the 12 or so good guys, with no casualties, from the 10000 or so orcs or goblins under the mountain. It really seems improbable.

And then there was the "Disney" humor interjected into the script again.

But I like the story, and so I will look forward to installment 2.

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Not being a smart alleck, but goblins=orcs (not sure why Tolkien changed the name from The Hobbit to the LotR.

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Orc is from Old English orcneas, which appears in the epic poem Beowulf, and refers to one of the races who are called the offspring of Cain during the initial description of Grendel ("Þanon untydras ealle onwocon,/eotenas ond ylfe, ond orcneas," ll. 111-112). In a letter of 1954 Tolkien gave orc as "demon" and claimed he used the word because of its "phonetic suitability" — its similarity to various equivalent terms in his Middle-earth languages. In an essay on Elven languages, written in 1954, Tolkien gives meaning of 'orc' as "evil spirit or bogey" and goes on to state that the origin of the Old English word is the Latin name Orcus — god of the underworld.

About the goblins of The Hobbit, Tolkien wrote:

"They are not based on direct experience of mine; but owe, I suppose, a good deal to the goblin tradition ... especially as it appears in George MacDonald, except for the soft feet which I never believed in."

Middle-earth terms for OrcsIn the High-elven tongue Quenya, the word for "Orc" was urco, plural urqui, meaning "bogey", or "bogeyman", that is, something that provokes fear. In the Grey-elven tongue Sindarin, it was orch, plural yrch. In the Dwarven tongue Khuzdul, it was rukhs, plural rakhâs. In the language of the Drúedain or Wild Men, it was gorgûn. In the Black Speech of Mordor, the equivalent was Uruk, as can be seen in Uruk-hai, "Orc-folk". Orc itself is from Rohirric and the Hobbit-language, which shared linguistic roots, but the term is clearly related to the older Elvish words.

Uruk and Uruk-hai were reserved for the Uruks themselves, a special breed or breeds of Orc; they called smaller, weaker Orcs snaga, "slave". The Grey Elves also referred to the Orcs as a whole as the Glamhoth, "noisy horde". The word "goblin" is used to represent the original Hobbit Orc. In The History of Middle-earth Tolkien writes about an Orc captain named Boldog but later specifies that Boldog may have been either a term or a title for another special kind of Orc instead of a personal name.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_(Middle-earth)

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