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PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012 15:34 
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I'm on wi-fi and it's working and I'm using my laptop right now. I was just attempting to get on the internet on my desktop and firefox said it was going to update which it does all the time. It started and then gave me a message saying there was an incompatible add on which was Norton tool bar and asked it it wanted me to search for a compatible add on, not having the foggiest idea what was going on, I just said yes. It asked me to finish which I did and then it suddenly lost internet connection. I tried explorer so it's not a firefox problem. Everything is working as far as hardware. I don't see my Norton icon on my desktop anymore. It appears where you look at all the programs but then just comes up with installation and security and backup (which I don't have) and I can't do anything with those because I don't have internet. Should I throw my desktop away? If I lost Norton I can probably find the subscription stuff and re download but I'm at a loss as to what to do.

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PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012 16:31 
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Can you do a "Restore"?

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PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012 17:40 
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Joe,

Ok, it took me five minutes to remember where that was and I did it but it didn't seem impressed. But, it did remind me to try restart which I did but I still couldn't get on, however my Norton icon was back. I clicked on that for no particular reason other than I was happy it was back and then closed it and tried to get on and I'm ok now. I simply will never get it.

Thank you for your suggestion.

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PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012 17:53 
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I had a horrible time with Internet Explorer a couple months back. Slow as a snail, then it locked up etc. Horrible. Tried everything to fix it.

I got sick of it and downloaded the Google CHROME "explorer'', webpage presenter, whatever it's called.

It worked fine right off. Fast as heck.
A couple of weeks later Internet Explorer seemed to clean itself up. I hadn't done anything. Must have had some temporary garbage in its files which it needed to clean up.

I'm still mad at Internet Explorer, though, and routinely use Google CHROME to surf the internet.

I can run both 'explorers' at the same time. Norton doesn't seem to care.

CHROME lets you 'import' your Internet Explorer Favorites.

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PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012 18:53 
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Val - Glad it worked. [You are faster than me in remembering how to get to Restore. :wink: ]

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PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012 20:06 
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Norman,

I don't have any explorer favorites as I only use firefox. I hate not understanding the weird things computers do sometimes. I assume it's some sort of socialist plot orchestrated by Obama.

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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2012 01:06 
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Computers are some of the most complicated machines ever created by man. Seriously. There is always a reason, there is always a cause, and the computer is stupidly doing precisely what it is told to do.

Figuring out what it is told to do and why it does what it does is unbelievably difficult sometimes.

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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2012 17:31 
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Have you recently updated to Firefox 17.0.1?

I recently saw this comment about it on another forum:

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I keep getting "syntax error" messages, with an obnoxious ding, every time a page loads.

I guess this is also a PSA, if you haven't updated yet, don't.

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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2012 17:33 
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I also have to say that I'm not exactly a Google lover, but once I switched to Chrome, a lot of things improved.

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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2012 17:59 
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I also have to say that I'm not exactly a Google lover, but once I switched to Chrome, a lot of things improved.



It's good to have a second 'explorer', webpage presenter, whatever, ready in case the first one has a nervous breakdown,
as apparently happened with VAL and I.

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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2012 22:06 
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Rose,

Thanks for that info. I was trying to update to the latest version of firefox as they always automatically start an update when you start to sign on if there is an update available. I was going to go to their website to start the update again but I don't think I will now.

I'm not sure I understand what Chrome is...just another browser? What advantages does it have over explorer and firefox?

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PostPosted: 06 Dec 2012 23:36 
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Val wrote:
Thanks for that info. I was trying to update to the latest version of firefox as they always automatically start an update when you start to sign on if there is an update available. I was going to go to their website to start the update again but I don't think I will now.

I'm not a Firefox user, but I'll bet there is a setting to prevent those automatic updates.

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LASaxman wrote:
I'm not a Firefox user, but I'll bet there is a setting to prevent those automatic updates.


Among other browsers, I'm running FF 17.0 .... where Tools --> Options --> Advanced --> Update will get you to where you want to be to choose how you want to handle updates

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Val wrote:

I'm not sure I understand what Chrome is...just another browser? What advantages does it have over explorer and firefox?


Chrome is just another browser, but it seems to work for me, when Firefox seems to be rife with ads and Explorer has gotten just plain weird.

It's also very compatible with my smartphone, which uses the google android operating system. So I can expect similar things to work on both phone and laptop. (and kindle, for that matter)

I think it comes down to YMMV. To some extent, they all seem to have some quirk that's attractive to part of the population.

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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2012 08:09 
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So far I have not detected any "updates" by Google's CHROME. The thing works and they leave it alone.

Microsoft has fifteen thousand software engineers who are always playing around with the software because they're not paid to read newspapers. So Windows and Internet Explorer are constantly being updated, and we get problems like I had two months ago.

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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2012 15:29 
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Rose,

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Chrome is just another browser


Yes and no.

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Google Chrome, a web browser
Google Chrome OS, a web-centric Linux-based operating system
Chrome (programming language) or Oxygene, an Object Pascal implementation for the .NET Framework
User interface chrome, the borders and widgets that frame the content part of a window
Chrome Mozilla or XUL, the Mozilla XML user interface language
S3 Chrome, a series of graphics accelerators
Microsoft Chrome, an API for DirectX

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I bow to your superior knowledge.

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PostPosted: 07 Dec 2012 21:06 
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Seamas O Dalaigh wrote:
Rose,

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Chrome is just another browser


Yes and no.

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Google Chrome, a web browser
Google Chrome OS, a web-centric Linux-based operating system
Chrome (programming language) or Oxygene, an Object Pascal implementation for the .NET Framework
User interface chrome, the borders and widgets that frame the content part of a window
Chrome Mozilla or XUL, the Mozilla XML user interface language
S3 Chrome, a series of graphics accelerators
Microsoft Chrome, an API for DirectX

Technically true.
In context, false.
Practically, useless.

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Who_started_this? wrote:
So far I have not detected any "updates" by Google's CHROME. The thing works and they leave it alone.

Chrome updates, it just does so silently. The current version of Chrome is v23. As opposed to 17 for Firefox, 11 for Opera, and 10 for Internet Explorer.

Who_started_this? wrote:
Microsoft has fifteen thousand software engineers who are always playing around with the software because they're not paid to read newspapers. So Windows and Internet Explorer are constantly being updated, and we get problems like I had two months ago.

That's not quite how it works. Well, by "quite" I mean "at all".

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