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PostPosted: 14 Feb 2013 18:43 
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Moving 3 jumps ahead in speculation...

If I recall correctly, part of the public events of the installation includes the Cardinals kissing the ring of the new Holy Father (or making some gesture of humility/obedience). I can't recall if that happens in the Basilica or outside in the Square.

If Bishop Emeritus of Rome Joseph Ratzinger remains or is remade a Cardinal (or even if he isn't), I'm guessing he would present himself to do the same at some point.

I say that because our Holy Father is a shrewd man about the importance of actions, gestures, appearance, place and timing. I am probably not as shrewd, especially in this context, but I assume he wouldn't want to cause (even by omission) the impression anything that could be twisted by the media or naysayers into making things difficult for the new Pope.

I just wonder if he will do so as part of the same public ceremony as the Cardinals, or will he call on the new Pope privately for fear of being a distraction at the broader public event?

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Rob,

I don't believe Benedict will swear fealty as I don't believe he will be present.

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I don't believe Benedict will swear fealty as I don't believe he will be present.


What does one have to do with the other?

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Rob,

He will remain at Castel Gandolfo till after the installation.

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Be that as it may - what does that have to do with whether or not he swears fealty?

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Rob,

In order to swear fealty he would need to be present.

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I do not believe it is necessary for one to be present at the same time as the assembled Cardinals in order to swear fealty to the new Pope.

I'm sure there is precedent from days of slower communication and travel (or infirmity/illness) when Cardinals arrived in Rome after the Conclave was complete and the new Pope installed. They simply swore fealty to the Pope at their first opportunity.

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From the way Pope Benedict has stated his plans, I don't expect that he will be seen in public again after February 28.

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Act of homage

Instead of having each of the more than one hundred cardinals kneel before the Pope individually to do him homage, twelve people, lay as well as clerical, did so: the senior Cardinal Bishop, the senior Cardinal Priest, the senior Cardinal Deacon, the bishop of Benedict's former suburbicarian diocese of Velletri-Segni, the priest serving as pastor of Benedict's former titular church when he was a Cardinal Priest, a deacon, a religious brother, a Benedictine nun, a married couple from Korea, and a young woman from Sri Lanka and a young man from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, each of whom had been recently confirmed.



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While the rituals used for the inaugurations of Popes John Paul I and John Paul II were provisional ad hoc rites, the one used for Pope Benedict XVI was not. Under Pope John Paul II, the Office of Liturgical Celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff prepared a draft version of a permanent rite, to be submitted for revision and eventual approval as a definitive ordo by John Paul II's successor. Pope Benedict approved this new rite on 20 April 2005. It was then published as an official liturgical book of the Church with the name Ordo Rituum pro Ministerii Petrini Initio Romae Episcopi (Order of the Rites for the Beginning of the Petrine Ministry of the Bishop of Rome). This new ordo is intended to be a permanent version of the rite of inauguration and, in a press conference held shortly before Pope Benedict's inauguration, Archbishop Piero Marini, the Papal Master of Ceremonies, described it as part of the application to papal rites of the liturgical reforms that followed the Second Vatican Council. Of course, any new Pope would have full authority to alter this inauguration rite, if, for instance, he decided to include a coronation ceremony.

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Hmmmm...

Father Z. has some news from a CNS story, including...

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One of the most visual changes, he said, would be the restoration of the public “act of obedience” in which each cardinal present at the pope’s inaugural Mass comes forward and offers his allegiance.

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Hmmmm...

Father Z. has some news from a CNS story, including...

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One of the most visual changes, he said, would be the restoration of the public “act of obedience” in which each cardinal present at the pope’s inaugural Mass comes forward and offers his allegiance.



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