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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013 12:10 
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January 28th is the memorial of St Thomas Aquinas and today I ran into this:

Whether Thomas Aquinas is fittingly called boring?

Objection 1: It would seem that Thomas Aquinas is fittingly called boring. The works of Thomas are composed of impersonal statements and arguments, which are boring. Now, every agent acts in accordance with its nature to produce something like unto itself (omne agens agit sibi simile). Just as nothing can effect heat unless it is hot, so too no one can produce boring writings, unless he is boring. Hence it is seen that since Thomas’ works are boring, Thomas is fittingly called boring.

Objection 2: Thomas Aquinas is well known to have been of considerable girth. A man possesses phlegmatic humor in proportion to his size. The more phlegmatic a man’s disposition, the more he is perceived as dull, wearisome, and uninteresting. Thus, as a result of his girth, Thomas is fittingly called boring.

Objection 3: Those who are always correct in all things are annoying. Those who are annoying are also boring. Thus, Thomas, who is typically correct on account of the soundness of his reasoning and the brilliance of his intellect, is fittingly called boring.
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However, St. Thomas may be called boring accidentally with regard to the difficulty some of his readers experience. As the Philosopher observes in Physics I..............

http://www.dominicanablog.com/2013/01/2 ... is-boring/

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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013 13:07 
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Very clever! :)

St. Thomas, pray for us!

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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013 13:31 
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Old Tom is a favorite of mine,
and I had to post the "I answer" section here.................. :P

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I answer that, A thing may be called boring in two ways: in itself (per se) or accidentally (per accidens) on account of some accompanying factor. Thomas, considered in himself, is not boring. A man is only called boring who tries one’s patience excessively and to no great purpose. However, the works of Thomas are ordered towards producing knowledge and wisdom in the reader concerning the greatest realities, namely God and the things of God. As the Philosopher observes in the De Animalibus XI, the least knowledge of the highest realities produces the greatest joy. Whatever produces joy cannot fail to excite.

However, St. Thomas may be called boring accidentally with regard to the difficulty some of his readers experience. As the Philosopher observes in Physics I, we “start from the things which are more knowable to us and proceed towards those which are clearer and more knowable by nature.” Whatever is more knowable to us is bound up with the senses and is therefore more easily known and regarded as interesting and exciting. For example, we observe that children, whose capacity for speculation is less developed, learn more easily through stories than through syllogisms. In rising from the level of the senses to the level of intelligible truths, the mind experiences fatigue. This can induce boredom in the wisest of men but especially in those not habituated to abstract speculation. Thus, Thomas may be called boring but only accidentally with respect to the effect experienced by some of his readers.


In other words,

Aquinas is boring to bores. :z

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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013 17:00 
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Kim,

Very droll. Love it.

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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013 17:04 
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As to Objection 1, I reply that we must distinguish between Thomas the man and Thomas the theologian. As a theologian he must adhere to the rules of scholastic teaching, which is purposely designed to be avoid the semblance of entertainment, providing as it does no opening for personal initiative in attaining the truth. As the Philosopher says, The doctrines of the wise often wear the garb of foolishness (Logic, XXI,34) Hence, Thomas' teaching tells us nothing about Thomas as the man, to whom exclusively could the term boring apply.

As to Ojection 2, I reply that Thmas' girth, far from proving boringness, supports the opposite view. To the girthful is commonly ascribed festive eating and drinking, general jolliness and happy companionship, which is contrary to boringness.

As to Objection 3, I reply that corectness is boring only to the fool. For, as Solomon says, Fools despise wisdom" (Prov. 1,7) As we must respect only the opinions of the wise, we must conclude that correctness is not boring. Hence Thomas cannot be said to be boring.

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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013 17:32 
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As to Objection 3, I reply that corectness is boring only to the fool. For, as Solomon says, Fools despise wisdom" (Prov. 1,7)



The Book of Sirach, ch 22:
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................................worse than death is the life of a fool.
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Mourning for the dead, seven days
but for the wicked fool, a whole lifetime.

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PostPosted: 28 Jan 2013 21:41 
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I will be much more careful and considerate before I make a public statement about anyone having the gift of being boring. :) St. Thomas was brilliant and repetitive and dialectic. God Bless him.

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