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Until recently no fashionista would be seen dead in seasonal patterned knitwear, but now the kitsch style is a must-have for designers and celebrities alike. How did Christmas jumpers become so popular?

They might be embroidered with reindeer, or snowflakes, or a cheerful Father Christmas.

Knitted from variety of garish woollen hues, they look as though they are being worn to please a kindly but sartorially clueless grandmother.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20804249

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Until recently no fashionista would be seen dead in seasonal patterned knitwear, but now the kitsch style is a must-have for designers and celebrities alike. How did Christmas jumpers become so popular?

They might be embroidered with reindeer, or snowflakes, or a cheerful Father Christmas.

Knitted from variety of garish woollen hues, they look as though they are being worn to please a kindly but sartorially clueless grandmother.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20804249



Oh! That brings back some uncomfortable memories of having to wear such sweaters knitted by my Mother, it'll teach a young man how to fight in a hurry.

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Our local Arts Centre is even running a competion for the best/worst jumper...

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Why do I think that "Jumper" means something else in Your English then it does in the USian Version?

As my wife is a Knitter of some considerable ability......I try not to sit still for too long.

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Seamas O Dalaigh wrote:
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Until recently no fashionista would be seen dead in seasonal patterned knitwear, but now the kitsch style is a must-have for designers and celebrities alike. How did Christmas jumpers become so popular?

They might be embroidered with reindeer, or snowflakes, or a cheerful Father Christmas.

Knitted from variety of garish woollen hues, they look as though they are being worn to please a kindly but sartorially clueless grandmother.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20804249

James, the guy in the middle photo should have chosen something with a bit more burgundy to better match his glass of wine! :wink:

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Why do I think that "Jumper" means something else in Your English then it does in the USian Version?

As my wife is a Knitter of some considerable ability......I try not to sit still for too long.


I've heard Jumper used interchangeably with Jersey; in the Navy we called our pull-over uniform top a Jumper.

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English (and to my knowledge Aussie) 'jumper' = USAian 'pullover' or 'sweater'

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In British English, a sweater may also be called a pullover, jumper or jersey. In the US however, "jumper" refers to a style of women's sleeveless dress, and "jersey" refers to a knit shirt, especially if part of an athletic uniform. If sleeveless, such a garment may be called a tank top in British English, while "tank top" in US English refers to a sleeveless shirt or undershirt.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweater

I often wonder why the Wikipedia keeps calling Standard English "British (sic) English".

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Seamas O Dalaigh wrote:
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In British English, a sweater may also be called a pullover, jumper or jersey. In the US however, "jumper" refers to a style of women's sleeveless dress, and "jersey" refers to a knit shirt, especially if part of an athletic uniform. If sleeveless, such a garment may be called a tank top in British English, while "tank top" in US English refers to a sleeveless shirt or undershirt.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweater

I often wonder why the Wikipedia keeps calling Standard English "British (sic) English".


And the pull-over of a USN enlisted uniform which is wither wool or cotton depending on the season. The USN application fits none of the definitions cited.

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In British English, a sweater may also be called a pullover, jumper or jersey. In the US however, "jumper" refers to a style of women's sleeveless dress, and "jersey" refers to a knit shirt, especially if part of an athletic uniform. If sleeveless, such a garment may be called a tank top in British English, while "tank top" in US English refers to a sleeveless shirt or undershirt.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweater

I often wonder why the Wikipedia keeps calling Standard English "British (sic) English".

Sounds like a redundancy to me!

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I'm glad someone clarified that sweaters were being discussed. "Jumper" means to me a sleeveless fitted dress worn over a blouse and I was wondering how those could be popular and knitted.

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I was wondering how those could be popular and knitted.


My wife said it can be knitted. Patterns are available on line.


And if Cricket is reading this some of them are in her favorite style, Cable Knit.

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And the pull-over of a USN enlisted uniform which is wither wool or cotton depending on the season. The USN application fits none of the definitions cited.

I don't think the US Navy wears those anymore, so the correct terminology is a moot question.

Was there a name for the dress blue trousers with the thirteen button flap on the front?

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And the pull-over of a USN enlisted uniform which is wither wool or cotton depending on the season. The USN application fits none of the definitions cited.

I don't think the US Navy wears those anymore, so the correct terminology is a moot question.

Was there a name for the dress blue trousers with the thirteen button flap on the front?


The Navy has gone back to them for a couple of reasons not the least of which is the storage issue aboard ship for the "officer" style uniform. On the sub I had a locker that measured one cubic foot and I could lay my dress uniform under my mattress to keep it looking decent.

I used to call the thirteen button bell bottoms a number of names inappropriate for this forum, especially after a few too many beers. I heard the new uniform retains the look but has a zipper behind the flap to the buttons are mere decorations. I always thought the tradition behind that "crackerjack" uniform was important to keep, still have my tailored uniform with the embroidery inside although I'll never have a 28" waist again and they were tight back then, just a keepsake now.

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A colourful woolly jumper knitted by Burmese democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi has fetched nearly $50,000 at a charity auction in Rangoon.

The red, green and blue V-neck was bought by private radio station Shwe FM late on Thursday as part of a fundraising event, organised by Ms Suu Kyi's opposition party, for education projects.

Those close to Ms Suu Kyi gave conflicting views on whether she knitted the garment during her long years of house arrest in Rangoon, or while overseas before she returned to Burma to embark on her freedom struggle.

"She made it more than 25 years ago in England," Ko Ni, a close aide, told AFP.

"I do not know exactly when. Some of her belongings have arrived from England recently."

But a member of Ms Suu Kyi's security team said she made it while under house arrest at the hands of Burma's then ruling generals.




http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-28/a ... on/4446862

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