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PostPosted: 23 Jan 2013 19:06 
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A Catholic adoption agency has been warned that it could lose its charitable status over its refusal to place children with same-sex couples.

The Scottish Charity regulator said St Margaret's Children and Family Care Society provides a valuable service.

But the watchdog said it believed its current practice was unlawful. It has now given the society three months to change its procedures.

The Glasgow charity said it was talking to legal advisors about the matter.



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The ruling from the regulator follows a complaint from the National Secular Society about St Margaret's statement that it would place children with parents who have been married for at least two years.

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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2013 00:07 
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This is sad.

Looking at what else the National Secular Society writes and does, they seem to be primarily driven by hatred of faith-based groups, and especially of the Catholic Church. Whatever happened to live and let live? Why do they have to cram their beliefs down everybody's throats?! There is a group in the U.S. that goes around causing trouble, often in small towns (where they don't even live) with small budgets, threatening to sue them if they don't remove crosses or stop praying before the town meeting. I just don't get it.

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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2013 12:45 
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Grace,

I so agree and I don't understand why requiring couples to be married is suddenly so outlandish but I assume it's because it eliminates same-sex couples who can't marry. I imagine the agency probably doesn't give children to unmarried persons if there are willing married couples willing to take the child so why don't they protest that, or do they?

I just feel sick at heart sometimes.

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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2013 15:51 
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...it eliminates same-sex couples who can't marry.


The UK has civil unions for same-sex couples. The present government is in favour of introducing same-sex "marriage".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_part ... ed_Kingdom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_m ... ed_Kingdom

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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2013 15:56 
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The British National Secular Society, founded in 1866, is in favour of the separation of church and state (disestablishmentarianism).

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The Society campaigns for "Challenging Religious Privilege" the disestablishment of the Church of England; the withdrawal of state subsidies to religious schools; the end of tax exemption for churches and an end to the public funding of chaplains in prisons, hospitals and the armed services, as well as keeping religious influence out of health care, legislation, Human Rights and equality issues. It was recently highly involved in the abolition of the blasphemy laws. Another issue it campaigns about is the conscientious objections by doctors and pharmacists to administer certain procedures or treatments and their refusal to treat certain patients.



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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2013 16:21 
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The Equality Act 2010 includes the fallacy of 'sexual orientation' as a protected characteristic; however, it as well includes 'religion or belief' as a protected characteristic.

It would appear that some believe that the newly created and novel 'sexual orientation' rights trump the historically proven and time observed 'religion or belief' rights.

The elite social engineers created this conflict when they propped up a depraved practice to the same level as a moral practice.

I hope the Catholic charity opposes vigorously this attempt to advance evil and assault religious liberty.

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PostPosted: 25 Jan 2013 00:10 
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Seamas O Dalaigh wrote:
Grace,

The British National Secular Society, founded in 1866, is in favour of the separation of church and state (disestablishmentarianism).

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The Society campaigns for "Challenging Religious Privilege" the disestablishment of the Church of England; the withdrawal of state subsidies to religious schools; the end of tax exemption for churches and an end to the public funding of chaplains in prisons, hospitals and the armed services, as well as keeping religious influence out of health care, legislation, Human Rights and equality issues. It was recently highly involved in the abolition of the blasphemy laws. Another issue it campaigns about is the conscientious objections by doctors and pharmacists to administer certain procedures or treatments and their refusal to treat certain patients.



Ah, I was right. They are all about being against something instead of being for something. I corresponded with somebody from one of their groups because they had lies about Pope Pius XII on their web site. NOT interested in facts at all, not seeking truth, just into hating. I had not realised how much hate energises some of these secularist groups. They sound so benign unless you scratch the surface.

You know, I really miss the hippies and flower power and peace signs.

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PostPosted: 26 Jan 2013 17:59 
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They are all about being against something instead of being for something.


They are for a complete separation of church and state (something many in this Forum happen to be in favour of).

In England the church by law established is an arm of the state. Its most senior prelates sit in the parliament ex officio. Its liturgy is regulated by statute. The NSS is for changing this, so that the Anglicans receive no preference over the English Reformed Church or the Happy-clappy four-square Gospel Church.

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PostPosted: 26 Jan 2013 18:17 
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Seamas O Dalaigh wrote:
...a complete separation of church and state (something many in this Forum happen to be in favour of).


Not quite -at least, not a 'separation' as defined by the ever helpful and morally devoid left.

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Seamas O Dalaigh wrote:
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They are all about being against something instead of being for something.


They are for a complete separation of church and state (something many in this Forum happen to be in favour of).

In England the church by law established is an arm of the state. Its most senior prelates sit in the parliament ex officio. Its liturgy is regulated by statute. The NSS is for changing this, so that the Anglicans receive no preference over the English Reformed Church or the Happy-clappy four-square Gospel Church.

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When I read their stuff, I understand they hate Christianity and they want privileges for the atheists and for atheism to be the state religion.

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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2013 09:47 
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Colorado is on the brink of joining those municipalities in which there will no longer be a Catholic Adoption Service, our Civil Union bill is advancing almost unchallenged in a Democratically held State Legislature. A Conscientious Objection clause that was in the initial bill has been removed in the latest version, written by a homosexual statesman as you might have guessed. Can you spell religious persecution?

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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2013 21:13 
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Bob,

Pat Steadman? He has argued that Catholics opposed the Bill even when it had the conscientious objection clause, so he thought he might as well delete it.

Doesn't the Colorado Constitution define marriage as being between a man and a woman? That being so, the Steadman Bill must be unconstitutional. A similar proposal was defeated in Colorado in 2011. Let's hope for the same again.

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