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PostPosted: 18 Jan 2013 15:13 
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In a thread discussing the Gun Grab a speculative question arose over how the military might enforce an unconstitutional dictum or not, the first step in answering that question has been taken by our USMA:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/west-point-center-cites-dangers-far-right-us/

Looks like some of us have already gone form law-abiding, constitution supporting citizens to anti-Federalists and terrorists.

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PostPosted: 18 Jan 2013 15:17 
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Yeah, "We the people"

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PostPosted: 18 Jan 2013 17:00 
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I heard some frightening things on the radio today about the whole gun issue and Obama's executive orders. It included a figure (over 100,000) of the number of veterans who are not allowed to own guns because they get treatment at a VA hospital and that gets reported and their guns are literally taken away. With Federal agencies being required to communicate, it's potentially possible for someone treated for a minor depression through medicare or medicaid to have their gun taken away. He also spoke of the Smith amendment that specifically prohibited the development of a national gun registry but apparently in practice, it essentially exists since the Clinton administration. I forget who this man was....I know he mentioned with working with 25-30 senators so he was a liason of some sort. Sorry, I don't have less garbled information.

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PostPosted: 18 Jan 2013 17:50 
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bali wrote:
In a thread discussing the Gun Grab a speculative question arose over how the military might enforce an unconstitutional dictum or not, the first step in answering that question has been taken by our USMA:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/west-point-center-cites-dangers-far-right-us/

Looks like some of us have already gone form law-abiding, constitution supporting citizens to anti-Federalists and terrorists.


This is more of the same from the "Rules For Radicals" playbook,

It would appear that the subjective science of psychology is one area that President Obama seeks to fully exploit for political gain as evidenced by his published gun control 'suggestions' and actions.

I remember well all the supporters of Obamacare's mandate to centralize and digitize medical records for 'cost savings' -they claimed loudly HIPAA Privacy would be maintained sacrosanct. Where are these useful idiots now? No doubt, arguing the same in support of a central gun registry and all inclusive background check regime that President Obama 'feels' necessary to 'protect the children' (at least those he has not assisted and promoted wholesale and public subsidized slaughtering in the womb).

Where will these helpful useful idiots be when my individual liberties are infringed and when I am levied for some politically incorrect thought crime?

They will be nowhere in sight.

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I heard some frightening things on the radio today about the whole gun issue and Obama's executive orders. It included a figure (over 100,000) of the number of veterans who are not allowed to own guns because they get treatment at a VA hospital and that gets reported and their guns are literally taken away. With Federal agencies being required to communicate, it's potentially possible for someone treated for a minor depression through medicare or medicaid to have their gun taken away. He also spoke of the Smith amendment that specifically prohibited the development of a national gun registry but apparently in practice, it essentially exists since the Clinton administration. I forget who this man was....I know he mentioned with working with 25-30 senators so he was a liason of some sort. Sorry, I don't have less garbled information.



It is pretty much standard practice in VA Hospitals and Clinics to be asked question that go something like..." Are you feeling Depressed, nervous, worried about anything" Giving the wrong answer could get you admitted to the Psyc ward for evaluation. My answers are always nope....all is good; mostly I stay away from the VA Hospitals though.

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Yeah, "We the people"



I couldn't have said it better.

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The far right represents a more extreme version of conservatism, as its political vision is usually justified by the aspiration to restore or preserve values and practices that are part of the idealized historical heritage of the nation or ethnic community.


As opposed to the revisionist historical heritage, I guess.
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The report says there were 350 “attacks initiated by far-right groups/individuals” in 2011.
Details about what makes an attack a “far right” action are not clear in the report...

I really wonder what those were. :o

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The far right represents a more extreme version of conservatism, as its political vision is usually justified by the aspiration to restore or preserve values and practices that are part of the idealized historical heritage of the nation or ethnic community.


As opposed to the revisionist historical heritage, I guess.
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The report says there were 350 “attacks initiated by far-right groups/individuals” in 2011.
Details about what makes an attack a “far right” action are not clear in the report...

I really wonder what those were. :o


I don't know what those 350 "attacks" were but there have been statements that indicate who is considered the radical far-right:

Obama's "they cling to their guns and god" (paraphrased) accusation during his first campaign;
the 2009 DHS paper defining patriotic and religious groups as terrorists;
the NRA, all civilian gun-owners;
veterans, by extension I suppose the American Legion and VFW;
retired police;
the paper referenced in this thread defining anyone who disagrees with the current administration or national state of affairs as dangerous far-right extremists.

The administration appears to be paving the way to forcefully suppress the citizenry by painting those it perceives as challengers to it's ideology as un-American, un-Patriotic and even dangerous terrorists. This thread is about the beginning of indoctrinating and desensitizing our future military leaders for possible deployment against US citizens on US ground.

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The administration appears to be paving the way to forcefully suppress the citizenry by painting those it perceives as challengers to it's ideology as un-American, un-Patriotic and even dangerous terrorists. This thread is about the beginning of indoctrinating and desensitizing our future military leaders for possible deployment against US citizens on US ground.



And the purpose of the 2nd Amendment is?

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