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James Daly

"It is the Lord." (Jn 21:7)

James,
Darn, I know a new edition is coming. I have the 4-volume and they're still in very good shape. I don't feel like replacing them yet.

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Pax et bonum,
Marie

JMJ

I'm with Marie, they're expensive and I have the four volume set.

I'm not sure I understand why psalms and canticles need translation?

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Valerie Garcia
vals1990@yahoo.com

"Listen, O my son, to the precepts of thy master, and incline the ear of thy heart, and cheerfully receive and faithfully execute the admonitions of thy loving Father, that by the toil of obedience thou mayest return to Him ....." St. Benedict

Because everybody doesn't read Hebrew?

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David L (CA)
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

Well I hope they do a better job then they did with the Liturgy Translation.

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Bob C

I have you one better. Not only is my 4-volume set still in worn but prayable shape, but my wife has a set that is virtually untouched.

[tongue-in-cheek]Hopefully the new edition takes years to come out. With how slowly the bishops take to agree on anything definitive, perhaps there is hope.[/tongue-in-cheek]

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Dean
Most people's sense of history goes back to breakfast time - Benjamin Netanyahu

If you want some insight into the difficulties in translating psalms (from a Jewish perspective), here's an excellent book:

http://www.amazon.com/Book-Psalms-Trans ... 0393337049

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Jamais le mal n’aura le dernier mot. La foi et l’amour déplacent les montagnes de la haine.
- Marguerite (Maggy) Barankitse

David,



That would be Greek. The Catholic Church, following Christ and the Apostles, has always used the Septuagint Psalms. Protestants use the Hebrew.

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James Daly

"It is the Lord." (Jn 21:7)

Bob,



What's wrong with the new English translation of the Mass?

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James Daly

"It is the Lord." (Jn 21:7)

The Psalms were originally written in Hebrew. Anything else is a translation.

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David L (CA)
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

I'm pretty sure that the Grail Psalms are a translation from the Hebrew.

http://www.grailsociety.org.uk/publicat ... salms.html

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Jamais le mal n’aura le dernier mot. La foi et l’amour déplacent les montagnes de la haine.
- Marguerite (Maggy) Barankitse

If you have to ask you are not paying attention. When I attend mass and feel I need to take out a dictionary to look up words that were prayed by the priest during mass, I find that a distraction.

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Bob C

HERESY! Don't you know that because the third translation is worlds better than the second, it must be immaculate? Any criticism of even the tiniest matter is clearly indicative of liberal socialist communist social justice seamless garment liturgical dancing Nuns on the Bus LCWR worship!

Seriously, when the new translation of the Missal came, I welcomed it. It really is superior to the old one. It restores a great deal of what we lost in the last decades. But it, like any man made thing, is not perfect and has significant imperfections. I think the vocabulary is one of them on places. So yes, there's nothing wrong with hoping for better.

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Jeff Stevens

Jeff,



I agree that in many respects the translation is an improvement, but in many ways it needs lots of work.

I suppose part of the problem is I do not use a missal. I want to "HEAR" the word of God proclaimed not read it. So every once in a while I hear something that brings a big "HunH what was that".

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Bob C

We are getting closer to the translation in my 1962 Baronius Press missal, interesting is it not? As Fr. Z likes to say; "brick by brick".

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BobA

Bob C,



Consubstantial? Oblation? Countenance?

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James Daly

"It is the Lord." (Jn 21:7)