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PostPosted: 16 Sep 2009 14:36 
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Vatican City, Sep 15, 2009 / 10:48 am (CNA).- The Russian Orthodox and the Roman Catholic Churches have improved relations under Pope Benedict XVI, and in a sign of a growing closeness, the Vatican announced today that Archbishop Hilarion, the Russian Orthodox head of External Church Affairs, is paying his first visit to Rome.

Archbishop Hilarion of Volokolamsk is visiting Rome at the invitation of Cardinal Walter Kasper, the president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. His trip began today and will last until September 20.

Archbishop Hilarion's post was previously filled by then-Archbishop Kirill, who was elected the Patriarch of Moscow and all Russia this past January.

This week's visit to Rome will be Archbishop Hilarion's first since he was appointed as president of the Department for External Church Affairs of the Patriarchate of Moscow after the selection of Kirill.

The archbishop will be received by the Holy Father and will meet, among others, Cardinal Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone; Cardinal Walter Kasper; Cardinal Leonardo Sandri, prefect of the Congregation for the Oriental Churches, and Archbishop Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the Pontifical Council for Culture.

"In the wake of the many meetings and conversations with the Patriarch in the past," says a statement issued by the Council for Christian Unity, "this visit will confirm the ties of friendship between the Catholic Church and the Russian Orthodox Church, on the solid basis of mutual understanding and respect, with a view to closer collaboration and to favor the presence of the Church in the lives of the peoples of Europe and the world."


At a meeting with the ambassador from the Dominican Republic to Russia, Archbishop Hilarion said that relations between the two Churches are good and have particularly improved under Pope Benedict.


“We have frank and rather efficient dialogue and its objective is to present the Christian vision to our present world and give answers to the questions raised by today’s reality,” the Orthodox archbishop said according to Interfax news agency.

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PostPosted: 16 Sep 2009 15:12 
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We do have a lot in common with the Orthodox Churches. It would be much easier to unite with them than with Protestants.
I hope I see this happen in my lifetime.

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PostPosted: 16 Sep 2009 15:24 
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Carmelite wrote:
We do have a lot in common with the Orthodox Churches. It would be much easier to unite with them than with Protestants.
I hope I see this happen in my lifetime.



Agreed. I love how they give the Precious Body and Blood by intinction. That just makes a great deal of sense.

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PostPosted: 16 Sep 2009 15:43 
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Luigi Daniele wrote:
Agreed. I love how they give the Precious Body and Blood by intinction. That just makes a great deal of sense.


Yes. And it stops any possible desecration as could happen when it is given in the hand.
BTW, the Eastern Catholics do that too.

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PostPosted: 23 Sep 2009 22:37 
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This is something that I would love to see happen. Does anybody understand how it would work? Would the Russian Orthodox acknowledge Pope Benedict as the leader of their church, and then the Russian Patriarch would be a patriarch like Patriarch Twal is the Patriarch of Jerusalem?

http://www.catholic.org/international/i ... &wf=rsscol

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Orthodox and Catholic : Will the 'Third Rome' Reunite With the 'First Rome'?
Zenit News Agency (http://www.zenit.org)

Archbishop Hilarion was in Rome for five days last week as the representative of the new Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill of Moscow.

'We live in a de-Christianized world, in a time that some define -- mistakenly -- as post-Christian,' Archbishop Hilarion said. 'Contemporary society, with its practical materialism and moral relativism, is a challenge to us all. The future of humanity depends on our response… More than ever before, we Christians must stand together.'
WASHINGTON, D.C. (Zenit.org) - Sometimes there are no fireworks. Turning points can pass in silence, almost unobserved.

It may be that way with the "Great Schism," the most serious division in the history of the Church. The end of the schism may come more quickly and more unexpectedly than most imagine.

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Grace,
Ecumenism cannot take place outside of the limits of "Truth". It is part of Divine Revelation (as shown in the Bible and witnessed by the Fathers of the Church) that the primacy belongs to Peter and his successor. That successor could be a Russian who will reside as the Bishop of Rome.
The Eastern Catholic Patriarchs have freedom with the governance of their churches but they cannot have a different belief than the rest of Universal Catholic Church. They differ in many church rules but the Faith is the same. So I guess that is what it would be after unity.

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PostPosted: 27 Sep 2009 19:40 
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Oh, I do wish the Churches would unite as one and quicklly!!!!!!!!!!!!


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I was glad to see this today:

Russian Orthodox Patriarch Agrees With Pope

Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia is affirming that the Russian Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church stand together on many current social issues.
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He observed: "We [together with the Roman Catholic Church] have similar positions on many problems facing Christians in the modern world. They include aggressive secularization, globalization, and the erosion of the traditional moral principles.
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Recently, the patriarch said, "the Russian Church has seen less Protestant communities cooperating in the cause of preserving the Christian legacy" due to "the relentless liberalization of the Protestant world."

He continued, "Alas, not only have they failed to conduct a real propagation of the Christian values among the secular society, many Protestant communities prefer to adjust to its standards." The patriarch made a particular reference to the recent election of a female bishop, Margot Kaessmann, as head of the Evangelical Church in Germany.


http://www.zenit.org/rssenglish-28265

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It is indeed easier to make dialogue with the Orthodox than with Protestants. They also have the seven Sacraments and valid bishops. It would be beautiful if their Rite would be taken up into the Catholic Church. Then there would be a Russian Catholic Rite. :)

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PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010 09:16 
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Ben,

We already have the Byzantine Rite for the Russian Catholic Church in union with the Holy Father. :wink:

See here: Introduction to the Eastern Rites of the Catholic Church.

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This is fascinating stuff, Ian, thanks!
"St. Peter's is reserved for the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, should (as it will, the Scriptures have so promised) Byzantium return to union with Rome." :o
"It is an irony of history that Pope John XXIII of happy memory won the election to the Papacy by a small margin over the Armenian Patriarch, Cardinal Gregory Peter Agajanian XV. We just as near as scat had an Eastern Catholic Pope in the 1960s." :o

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