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PostPosted: 13 May 2004 01:59 
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I have just bought an Orthodox Russian icon on an Ebay auction; it was described as Virgin Mary birthgiving help. I do know very little about icons, and I wonder if anyone knows anything about this motif. Is it a common motif , and what does it mean? Is it the blessed Virgin who give aid to labouring women (I kind of bought it with that in mind...), or is it help to the Virgin as she gives birth to the Christ?

You may see a picture of it :arrow: here.

Thanks in advance for any information you can give me!

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Stine,

Here's a comment on this icon:

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Known in Greek as Cherson and in Slavonic as Korsunskaya, this icon takes its name from the town in Crimea where it was first produced. It is essentially a "close-up" detail of the Mother of God of Tenderness. He touches her chin with one hand and presses his cheek against hers. Her pensive, sorrowful eyes foresee his Passion and she embraces him with affectionate, maternal protection. It is an especially appropriate icon to bring comfort and courage to a mother during the birthing of a child.


You can see the icon and the comment at http://www.comeandseeicons.com/hsw04.htm

(Note: this is a commercial site)

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Stine,

Ihsold have mentioned that the icon I cite is not the same as yours. But I think the comment applies.

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Robert,

I saw that it was different :) I have seen many of similar style, with their cheeks touching. They are very beautiful!

I also looked at the web site of a Norwegian icon painter that I know from before, she has some Mary with child motifs, there's some Theotokos Hodegetria and many Theotokos of the Sign - the web site you pointed to have many Theotokos of the Sign; they are somewhat similar to my icon and obviously a common motif. However, the symbols used are different in that in Theotokos of the Sign the Christ is encircled in her womb, and the Mother lifts both her hands upwards.

In my icon, the child Christ is unclothed, and there's no circle but rather a pointed ellipse (I do not know the proper name for this shape) and her hands seem rather protective of the baby, she holds them kind of shielding over it. I do not recognize it at all the way Theotokos Hodegetria and Theotokos of the Sign are familiar. I will have to investigate this further.

I do appreciate your comments, though, and I too feel that one could find comfort and courage in this icon :)

Thanks!

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