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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010 13:54 
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Can't say I'm surprised but still!

http://www.lifenews.com/2010/10/26/state-5604/
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A campaign postcard the Minnesota Democratic Party sent to voters in the Midwestern state is causing a strong reaction from pro-life advocates. It claims the Catholic Church is more concerned with abortion than helping the poor.The postcard features a large photo of a older but faceless Catholic priest holding a Bible and wearing the clearly-seen Roman Catholic collar.

The priest sports a campaign button in a red, white and blue motif with the words, “Ignore the Poor.”

The ad, in the estimation of National Catholic Register writer Matt Archbold is blatantly Catholic and meant to tell voters the Catholic Church is more concerned about abortion than the plight of the poor.

“Sometimes there’s a little subtlety to anti-Catholic political rhetoric but not this time. This is in your face anti-Catholicism,” he said. “It’s anti-Catholicism is not one point of many. It’s the point.”

“But this postcard has nothing to do with the poor. What this is about is the fact that the Church stands strong against abortion and gay marriage. And that makes some very angry,” he explained.

Archbold says he’s concerned that Minnesota party leaders must believe the postcard could sway enough voters to make the anti-Catholic sentiment useful.

“One of the more worrisome things about this is that this group must believe that there’s enough of an anti-Catholic vote that this would pay dividends. Could that be true?” he said.

“Never mind the factual basis the charge that the Church ignores the poor is absolutely ridiculous because the Church is the most charitable organization on the planet,

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Btw, I think the strong leadership of Abp. Niestedt of St. Paul-Minneapolis has pushed their nerves over the edge.

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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010 14:01 
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This is going to backfire on them in a big way. Which is a good thing.

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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010 14:04 
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Fabrizio,

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Sometimes there’s a little subtlety to anti-Catholic political rhetoric but not this time.


'Can't say I've noticed much subtlety. (Maybe that's just because of where I live.)

This ad borders on the neurotic. It can only backfire.

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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010 15:14 
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Seamas O Dalaigh wrote:
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Sometimes there’s a little subtlety to anti-Catholic political rhetoric but not this time.


'Can't say I've noticed much subtlety. (Maybe that's just because of where I live.)

This ad borders on the neurotic. It can only backfire.

Absolutely! Sheer ignorance/stupidity/arrogance come to mind. Only an idiot would approve such a crass and unethical campaign ad!

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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010 18:25 
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Since the so-called roman collar is worn by many Protestant clergy, I think this would be perceived by most as anti-religion or anti-clerical rather than specifically anti-Catholic.

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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010 18:34 
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OK, in the interests of accuracy, this ad was NOT put out by the Democratic Party. If you google "Minnesota DFL" you will find it identifies the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party. If you really want to know more about them the have a website that can be easily found.

Maybe Nurse Nell can come by and shed some light about the MDFL.

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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010 18:40 
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Yes and no.

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The Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party (DFL) is a major political party in the U.S. state of Minnesota. It was created on April 15, 1944 when the Minnesota Democratic Party and the Farmer–Labor Party merged. Hubert Humphrey was instrumental in this merger. The party is affiliated with the national Democratic Party. Both members of the party and non-members in Minnesota often use "DFLer" instead of "Democrat".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_ ... abor_Party

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PostPosted: 26 Oct 2010 19:06 
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LASaxman wrote:
Since the so-called roman collar is worn by many Protestant clergy, I think this would be perceived by most as anti-religion or anti-clerical rather than specifically anti-Catholic.

Respectfully, David, I disagree. I'm always willing to give beenfit of the doubt, some would say too much, but the roman collar is associated directly with Roman Catholicism. This is an attack on Catholic priests who stand up for the truth of the non-negotiable matters of natural law which MUST be recognized by civil law.

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PostPosted: 27 Oct 2010 10:13 
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Seamas O Dalaigh wrote:
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Yes and no.

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The Minnesota Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party (DFL) is a major political party in the U.S. state of Minnesota. It was created on April 15, 1944 when the Minnesota Democratic Party and the Farmer–Labor Party merged. Hubert Humphrey was instrumental in this merger. The party is affiliated with the national Democratic Party. Both members of the party and non-members in Minnesota often use "DFLer" instead of "Democrat".

My mistake. I guess I did not look deep enough. I had never heard of the DFL before.

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LASaxman wrote:
My mistake. I guess I did not look deep enough. I had never heard of the DFL before.



Look deeper and you will find communists have infiltrated and coerced the left...

It quacks like a duck if one just makes the effort to listen. I think the facade is beginning to crumble.

Quack Quack.

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I could be wrong but I think most will ignore that campaign.

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LASaxman wrote:
My mistake. I guess I did not look deep enough. I had never heard of the DFL before.

Look deeper and you will find communists have infiltrated and coerced the left...

That's funny, somebody just told me yesterday that the Tea Party is Fascist.

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I think it's anti-Catholic.
This is another one from the same people. As ignorant as I was and before I ever went to a Mass, I still could have told you (from films, photos) that this is a Catholic church!

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LASaxman wrote:
Since the so-called roman collar is worn by many Protestant clergy, I think this would be perceived by most as anti-religion or anti-clerical rather than specifically anti-Catholic.

It seems most of the media news outlets are calling it an attack on Catholics and it can only mean the Roman collar is synonymous with Catholic clergy and the creator/s of the flier in all probability intended it to be.

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It's called "Roman" collar for a reason....

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LASaxman wrote:
dlm wrote:
LASaxman wrote:
My mistake. I guess I did not look deep enough. I had never heard of the DFL before.

Look deeper and you will find communists have infiltrated and coerced the left...

That's funny, somebody just told me yesterday that the Tea Party is Fascist.


Tell your "somebody" to educate themselves.

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LASaxman wrote:
That's funny, somebody just told me yesterday that the Tea Party is Fascist.

Well, you must be patient whith such dimwits, David. Besides, there is more evidence of past and recent communist, racist and anti-semite presences among the left in America (and in the Democrat Party) and elsewhere than there is - it just wouldn't make sense - of fascists among the Tea partiers. In fact I think that a cursory review of the ideological fundamentals will reveal striking similarities between the things believed by the above mentioned dimwits and the Brown Shirts, rather than between the latter and the Tea Party movement:

General favor of ever increasing government control:
a) Nazi: check; b) liberals who hate the Tea Party: check, C) Tea Party: forget it
Higher appreciation for government regulations than concerns for private property rights:
a)check, b)check, c)forget it
Gov't run health care/single payer system:
a)check, b)check, c)forget it
Rejection of natural law as basis of the law:
a)check, b)check, c)forget it
Constitutions as "living and breathing" documents that "evolve" and "adapt" at will:
a)check, b)check, c)forget it
Enviro/animalist hysteria wanting laws regulating how much sugar you can have in your soft-drinks, what you can put in your sandwiches, what light bulbs you can purchase and so forth:
a) check b) check c) forget it
Welfare State:
a)check b)check c) forget it
More easily found bashing/endangering the US military, Israel, the west in general than Al Qaeda, Hamas, Iran and totalitarian states in general:
a)check b)check c) forget it
Record of voter intimidation/fraud
a)check b)check c) forget it
On family and life issues, are peaceful pro-life and family Christians more likely to be found among
a) Nazis b) Liberals who hate the tea party and their union thugs (the "Purple shirts") c) the Tea Party?
Pro-abortion/euthanasia/crazy experiment supporters more likely to be found among:
a) nazis b) liberals who hate the Tea Party c) Tea Party?
Overall being a form of/tending to socialism:
a) check b) check c) forget it
General hostility towards Christianity:
a) check b) check c) forget it

But back to these anti-Catholic democrat fliers: people who might be offended by them are more likely to be found among:

a) Minnesota nazis, b) Minnesota democrats c) Minnesota Tea Partiers?

To paraphrase the immortal words of John Belushi/Jake Blues (the Osservatore Romano will be happy now): I hate Minnesota nazis

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LASaxman wrote:
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That's funny, somebody just told me yesterday that the Tea Party is Fascist.
Last week someone told me that the earth was flat.

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LASaxman wrote:
That's funny, somebody just told me yesterday that the Tea Party is Fascist.

Well, you must be patient whith such dimwits, David.

I am patient with dimwits of all persuasions.

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