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The First Marriage
God introduces marriage in the garden. He created it for us. For us to become one flesh. A connection so great that it was never meant to be broken.
Genesis 2:21-25 “And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.
And Adam said: “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
Malachi 2:13-16: And this second thing you do. You cover the Lord’s altar with tears, with weeping and groaning because he no longer regards the offering or accepts it with favor from your hand. 14But you say, “Why does he not?” Because the LORD was witness between you and the wife of your youth, to whom you have been faithless, though she is your companion and your wife by covenant. 15Did he not make them one, with a portion of the Spirit in their union? And what was the one God seeking? Godly offspring. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and let none of you be faithless to the wife of your youth. 16“For the man who does not love his wife but divorces her, says the LORD, the God of Israel, covers his garment with violence, says the LORD of hosts. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and do not be faithless.”
Matt 19:3-9 “And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Mark 10:6-9 6 But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Ephesians 5:30-32 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh.” 32
Hebrews 13:4 “Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.”

Bound for Life
It is a connection so great that it was never meant to be broken. Bound to eachother for life.
Romans 7:2 “for the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives.
1 Corinthians 7:15 “The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth”
1 Corinthians 7:39 “A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives.”

The Reason the One Exception does not Apply to Married People
God’s original plan was for marriage to be between two people, until death do they part. He intended for the two to become one flesh at the time of the consummation of marriage. Divorce was never a part of God’s plan. It’s not an option. After the marriage there are no grounds for divorce, except for the death of a spouse. Jesus did give one exception though. And the exception is actually only allowed during the betrothal period, not the marriage. It is fornication
In biblical times, a betrothal contract was created between both fathers and the two people involved. During this betrothal period, the couple was considered legally married by the signing of the contract. But if either one of them had sex with someone else during this betrothal time, it was called fornication and was grounds for divorce. (An example of this would be when Mary was found to be pregnant with Jesus prior to her marriage to Joseph. This was during their betrothal and under Jewish law he could have divorced her at that time for her supposed fornication. And he would have, had it not been for an angel appearing to him telling him not to be afraid to take Mary as his wife because she was conceived of Holy Spirit.) However, consummation of their marriage after the betrothal period was over would make it a binding marriage rather than a betrothal and any sex outside the marriage after that time was considered adultery and God made no way out for that. This is why Jesus refers to fornication as being a way out, because during the betrothal period the marriage would not have been consummated yet, so it was considered fornication. The betrothal period was the only time a divorce could take place, and not after the consummation of the marriage.
Matthew 5:31,32 “It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causes her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced commits adultery.”
Matthew 19:9 “And I say unto you, whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry commits adultery: and whoso marries her who is put away does commit adultery.”

The Reason the Marriage is Considered Adultery
God sees a first marriage as binding and permanent, no matter what you might do as far as courts or divorce papers. No state divorce can nullify a marriage that God put together. And, God puts all first marriages together. In the eyes of God, you’re still one, for as long as you live. Even if you marry another person that second marriage is not valid in God’s eyes. According to God, the first marriage is still valid. That’s why the new one is adulterous.
Mark 10:11, 12 “And he says unto them, whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, commits adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she commits adultery.”
Luke 16:18 Whosoever puts away his wife, and marries another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
1 Corinthians 6:9,10 “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.”
Hebrews 13:4 “Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.”

Repentance
If you are in another marriage aside from your first one, and your spouse is still alive, it is considered an adulterous marriage and needs to be repented of. The only time that you are permitted to remarry is after your first spouse has passed away. (1 Corinthians 7:39) As with any other sin, repentance requires stopping of that sin. Therefore the repentance of an adulterous marriage requires the stopping of the marriage. Even if you ask for forgiveness while in the adulterous marriage that doesn’t mean that everything is ok. As long as you live within that second marriage you continue to commit adultery. And it doesn’t stop until you’re divorced. Repentance demands leaving the marriage. Christ will accept nothing less. "How shall we, who died to sin, live any longer in it?" (Rom. 6:2)
2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”
Luke 13:3 “Unless you repent you will likewise perish”
1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
Romans 6:1, 2 “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?”
Ezekiel 18:21-22 “But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.”
Job 11:14-15 “If iniquity were in your hand, and you put it far away, and would not let wickedness dwell in your tents; then surely you could lift up your face without spot; yes, you could be steadfast, and not fear.”

The Solution
The bible does give us options as to what to do after ending the adulterous marriage.
I Corinthians 7:11 “If she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.”
I Corinthians 7:15 “But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace…(v.39) The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to who she will; only in the Lord.”
1 Corinthians 7:39 “But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord.”
Romans 7:2,3 “For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

Conclusion
For those of you who want to wait until God tells you if remarriage after divorce is ok, it already tells you in His word that it’s a sin. You don’t have to pray and fast or knock down heavens door in order to know the truth. The word already tells us plainly God’s view on divorce and remarriage. Just as the enemy twisted the truth that God gave to Adam and Eve in the garden, he is also twisting the truth about divorce and remarriage. He is fooling everyone into believing that marriage after divorce, while your former spouse still lives, is not a sin. There is nothing more important than your eternal salvation. If you continue in an adulterous remarriage, you will lose your salvation. If there is no repentance, this will lead to separation from God and a future in hell.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.”


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PostPosted: 08 May 2011 07:46 
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Very interesting Elisheva,

You have obviously done your homework and you speak the truth.

There will be many on here entrapped in this sin including myself.

I have been married four times and only once in a church which was Baptist.
According to Catholic guidance I have had, this does not count anyway because it was not a Catholic ceremony. (Going by what I have learnt so far that is).

There are individual cases which need individual dealings to not offend God or cause scandal.
I won't go into this as it would take too long.

I have talked to my Priest/s about it and I am following their advice.

I am a sinner by nature but I am praying and hoping that God will lead me back to him. He understands how great the fall was for me way back, even down to an illegitemate beginning where my father enticed my mother away from her, then, husband, who put his mother before her and so forth and so forth.

I was born in a line of sinners and this is my lot.
A proper Mary Magdalene you could say.

Having said that, the man I am married to by civil law is the only man I know who has not bashed me around, put his mother or anything else before me, not had a drink problem in the extreme, sexually abused me, expected me to provide for him whilst he idles his time away and again, the list goes on.
The Man I share a home with now in civil law would never leave me, he is faithful and loyal, and I have no intention of ever leaving him either.

With your great knowledge and wisdom, I hope you will pray for me and the man I am by Law attached to.

I do try to be kind, help others, pray for those who are suffering, dying, lost and so forth, but from what I read of your post, God will not listen to me.

Frankly, perhaps I ought to leave the Church completely and just hope He is Merciful, if not then, well, what?

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PostPosted: 08 May 2011 08:54 
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Maria,

The person you should properly be seeking guidance from is your priest, and you are doing that.

Do not let some anonymous person on this Forum change your views. You may note that this is that posters first and only post thus far.

Keep doing what you are doing.

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PostPosted: 08 May 2011 09:27 
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Thanks Bob,

It does get a bit frustrating at times when people put their opinions forward without taking into account the whole picture.
This is not to make excuses for sin or lostness and I know that what this poster says is truly scriptural.

I too noticed that it may be a one off post, but I also know that there are others on here who have been divorced and so forth, who are kind and generous posters. As such a great sinner myself in the past, and growing in my Faith, I wanted to make clear in front of them that I for one am not going to be intimidated because I am not perfect (yet) and if ever I am, it will be by The Grace of God and not only by my own efforts.

There are many on here I have grown to respect and if I may say so, love, in Christ. Some of these people have said things that have hit raw nerves or I have not wholly agreed with and vice versa, but the respect and admiration I have for them has grown with understanding and following at a regular basis.

My Priests are wonderful I have to say and they also do not mamby pamby about life.
This issue has cropped up for me more than once and I have taken my concerns to my Priest who Confirmed me and he even told me off for not listening to him and letting these people get to me.

We are following certain steps in our marital relationship and my Priest knows I do nothing with the intent of causing embarrassment to The Church or offence to Our Lord.

Thank you for your kind response Bob. It is appreciated a lot.

And thanks to all on here who speak the Truth in Love. :)

God Bless you all

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