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I ask because I feel I need quite a bit, and I am just not achieving it at the moment. I am working long hours, going to the gym before I get home, and by the time I am home, Hubby is already there and then I am all involved in the chores that need doing and getting dinner ready and lunches for the following day. I leave before he does in the morning as well, because I have a longer commute.

This is all before we have kids. I know that if little ones do come along that alone time is going to be even more scarce. I usually use alone time to relax, to pray, to process some of the stuff of the day at work or whatever. I seem to need quite a bit of time, but before I head to Hubby with some ideas of changing our schedules and stuff, I wanted to know, how much alone time do you normally get, and how much do you think you need? Does the former always outnumber the latter, and if so, how on earth do you cope with it?!

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Well... not much these days. If I am lucky, the kids sleep in longer than I do and I can get online, pray, watch the news, whatever first thing in the morning for 30 mins to an hour. This morning I slept in and the kids got up before me. :roll:

The boys go to bed at 8 and, if the baby goes down at that time as well, I can get another hour or two of whatever I want done. If I have all the housework done, though. And that is the only time hubby and I have together, too, so I have to take that into account. Usually we stay together for an hour and then separate for an hour, then go to bed.

Of course, now the baby isn't sleeping as well (teething) and I usually end up holding her until I go to bed. Then we play "pass the baby" while we brush our teeth and then climb into bed, where I have to hold the baby so she'll sleep and hubby wants to cuddle a little. It's sort of like playing "sandwich" when you were a kid- and I am the meat. Sometimes I just wish no one would touch me for an hour. I am touched all day long and pretty touched out by the end of the day. Not that I don't want to snuggle with my DH, but........... you know how it is.

Usually about once a week my in-laws or my DH will take the kids outside or something and I don't have to be there. If I am lucky, the kitchen is clean, the laundry is done, the floors are swept, and I can sit down for a few minutes. That's bliss.

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I was just thinking about this more (while I changed a dirty diaper and tried to convince the boys to stop spitting their oatmeal across the kitchen and actually eat it...)

I guess now I find my solitude in quiet, not necessarily alone time. Even small times like showering, that's 10 minutes of alone time (although we only have one bathroom so you never know who is going to be running in and out while you shower), starting the laundry is usually a quiet activity, as is cleaning the kitchen, and cooking. Gardening while the kids play outside usually gives me a chance for reflection and solitude.

I think it's about using whatever opportunity you have and opening up to change in your normal routine. Especially once kids are in the picture, there is really rarely a time when you are truly alone, and there are parts of your brain you can never completely "turn off".

Hope this makes some sense.

Now excuse me, I have oatmeal to go clean up. :roll:

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PostPosted: 06 Oct 2008 04:26 
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I'm with Krista on this one :)

I needed to find a way to carve that peace out of the little moments. I changed my routine to wake up at 5:15 am so that I can get some quiet time to drink a cup of coffee in the mornings before the chaos of dressing two children and then the madness of going to work where I teach 120 little darlings then home with my two who want nothing more than to be with me every waing second until Daddy comes home and dinner is served. :)

So, I get my morning coffee. The five minute drive after day care and before work. While I am folding laundry. Chopping onions. The five minutes in bed when I try to pray before passing out. :)

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Quantitatively? Not much. And it does take a psychological toll from time to time.

But the union must be reached at higher levels otherwise the world and the daily occupations will triumph over serentiy and possibly over unity. Fact is that this world we live in simply isn't designed to meet the needs of families, and to favor recollection and tranquility.

But hey, if God wanted us for this time, for this battle then he'll give us what we need. Also, not wasting time is important and a meticolous planning of days (when possible) manages to squeeze unexpected moments of freedom out of days. Vita est militia super terram, says Paul. "Praise God and pass the ammunition!" :)

We'll have all the "time" we need in Heaven when God will be all for us and we'll be in him if we get there.(my wife is actually a bit worried about unconfirmed rumors that there are no telephones in Heaven, and that my presence will be eternal, which could exceed her present desire for more time together but... :o )

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PostPosted: 06 Oct 2008 05:24 
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Sometimes I just wish no one would touch me for an hour. I am touched all day long and pretty touched out by the end of the day.


I had completely forgotten about those days!! It is especially bad if you are nursing for some reason. It is as if there is no autonomy at all. Your idea of paradise is a king sized bed to yourself.

I am just now getting used to having 3 1/2 hours to myself every day. I did not like it at all in the beginning because I was not sure what I was supposed to be doing. And now.......sometimes, I like doing nothing at all. A couple of times I have just read cheap, trashy novels. I never turn on the radio or television when I am home alone. I just enjoy the quiet.

The best part though is that I get to go to Mass a couple of times a week all my myself. I almost feel guilty at times because I enjoy it so much. Even when I had my faithful sidekick I liked going but still felt a little uneasy because I worried about her fidgeting and upsetting the people around me. Mass is very different when you are alone.

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PostPosted: 06 Oct 2008 05:58 
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Effie, 11th March 2008.

Hello Brothers and Sisters, Its nice to be back on here and see the same names and familiar avatars etc. I have been busy and had a bit of back trouble but on the mend now. Also, went away for a couple of days with my husband. Hes a birdwatcher and the 'gentle' strolling exercise was good for my back.
Talking of alone time I have no children as I couldnt have any. At first that was very painful to deal with mentally and emotionally but now I am happy with my lot and my ex husband has remarried and has two (I hear) lovely sons by his wife, and my husband has been married before having had two great kids by his ex. She is a good mother and now we have all settled down a bit, I quite enjoy seeing my hubs children. They are teenagers now and more independat.
We have lots of quiet time on our own. While I am up here on the pc, he is down there with a book and his music. Whilst he is on here, I am down there cooking and/or watching tv or whatever. We get together for birdwatching, a special programmeor film sometimes or when his family are here for Sunday lunch etc. We visit his dad and sometimes go over to his sisters adn her family, especially Christmas when we all get together. The perfect family to be honest. He also has a brother and I have a half-brother. They also fit into the equation.
The only thing I am missing out on these days is that as I was only Confirmed 4 years ago, I am the only Catholic in the whole of my family apart from Austrian relatives abroad. Very lonely at times but I have left this with Our Lord in prayer.
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PostPosted: 06 Oct 2008 06:00 
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PS Forgive me, I am new to this photobucket stuff, I wanted to say to Effie that I thought your post was inspiring and I ought to be more grateful for the opportunity to have time on my hands a bit more. Love and God bless xxx

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But hey, if God wanted us for this time, for this battle then he'll give us what we need.


AMEN!! This battle and this particular time in history..........God has chosen us to be a part of this, rather than the days where families were together all the time, no computers, no cell phones, no husband and wife having to work to make ends meet.
We REALLY have been chosen for this particular time in history! Only God knows why.

On time alone..........it comes eventually after the kids are gone. However, when that finally happens, it seems it takes years to calm down and realize that you do have time for yourself! :roll: You become so use to not being with YOU that becoming you is a task and challenge.

I have to force myself to do time "alone" and when I do, it's wonderful! I think there's a craving inside each of us to have some time to be an island. I think it becomes a learned process after having lived a busy and sometimes chaotic life.
I now do daily walks with me dog. Sometimes I pray the rosary. Sometimes I just think. Sometimes I just enjoy my dog.
An after effect of me not taking time alone led me to various and permanent health issues.

My advice is to teach yourself now to take that time. So DO, by all means, talk to hubby and try to establish habits of some sort that give each of you time alone. Perhaps this may also help when it comes the time to be parents. Establish coping abilities now and try to live them from now on with your partner and future children.
I wish I had done this. It sure would've helped me.

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On time alone..........it comes eventually after the kids are gone.


Kids grow up and leave? Could you tell that to my 31 y.o. son :roll: Actually, he is moving out on 10/29, praise the Lord!!! I still won't have much alone time because I have 5 cats, Wexford, Kilkenny, Donegal, Galway, and Clare. They are as demanding of my time as children. At least my kids never bit me. :wink:

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haha! Nell!
My son left at 22. Although, when all his clothes and items were here in my home, I hardly saw him.
I do have to say, I miss him so much now. The day he left to be on his own, he packed up and left for the Big Apple where he knew absolutely no one! :roll: STRESS!!
Hopefully, when yours leaves, he won't be that far and in such a place where life is definitely in the fast lane.

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Hopefully, when yours leaves, he won't be that far and in such a place where life is definitely in the fast lane.


He's moving to Tampa, FL. We are in Minnesota. He'll be far away but it will be nice to have a place to stay in February, little does he know I'll be visiting :wink:

My other kids left home at the appropriate ages, whew :P

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Mine moved to Tampa!! Coincidence? I'm just so glad he's out of NYC!!

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If they don't have jobs Tampa is not a good place to be coming to right now.

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Mine is in medical sales. I hope he will continue to be needed.

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I ask because I feel I need quite a bit, and I am just not achieving it at the moment.

I have pretty much my entire life needed "alone" time more frequently than do most people. Some who are close to me have jokingly referred to me as "antisocial." :wink: (At least, I choose to believe they were joking!) :|

Early on, I came to realize that I needed that "aloneness" in order to function at my best.

Yet the life I chose placed me very often square in the middle of much social interaction. I joined the Marine Corps at age 17, I married and reared a family a young age, I spend twenty years going to evening classes, I became a construction superintendent, I opted to become a teacher at age 48, I have been active in the parishes to which I have belonged.

All the above activities required much interaction, often very intense, with others.

In short, I never fully participated in what I love best -- time alone in the quiet of the natural world. So I did the next best thing.

I would "steal" a few moments when I could. As a youngster, I would often spend a Saturday and Saturday night in the woods near our farm; just my dog, Rock, and I. When stationed at Camp Pendleton, I would often spend liberty in the hills, alone, rather than in Oceanside, CA with my buddies. When working construction, if the job site was near a rural area -- as new buildings often are, when the pressure of bringing a quality building in at or under estimate would become overwhelming, I would take a walk in the countryside and come back refreshed and more able to cope.

Sometimes, I would just retreat to a beloved glen in my mind. My classroom on the second floor of Piper high school had a spectacular view of the foothills along the south (Kansas) side of the Missouri and I would sometimes gaze out while conducting a five-minute keyboard time trial. Just imagining being there alone along a quietly-flowing river, with only the sounds of nature -- a cawing crow, a squirrel dashing through the leaves, the splash of a carp in the river -- temporarily restored my equilibrium. (Until the dinging of the timer brought me back from my reverie!) :(

And, of course, I have always been able to escape stress and get lost in a book.

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Does the former always outnumber the latter, and if so, how on earth do you cope with it?!

Well, for me, it did pretty much all of my working life and was a source of never-ending frustration.

But after my kids were grown and after I retired, thanks to a wonderfully understanding and supportive wife (who's maternal grandparents fortuitously left her a quiet farm far from the rush of the city), I have been able to spend that alone time on an "as needed" basis in a quiet glen at Fox Farm near Rock Port in the far northwest corner of Missouri (see my avatar), sixty-five miles from the nearest large metropolitan area.

My lovely wife, who is very maternal and city born and bred, doesn't share my need to spend much time alone so she usually stays home with her golden retrievers, kids and grandkids, and a circle of close friends.

But without a hint resentment, she allows me my week or two alone in the woods, prn, with Middi (aka "Black Dog"), the black lab who spent her formative months at this very farm, alone and fending for herself and came to me as an emaciated, tick infested eleven-month-old pup and decided to keep me.

She warmly welcomes us back home when our need for being alone is temporarily satiated.

And we kiss hello, go out for a meal (just Cheroni and I . . . Black Dog gets reacquainted with the goldens, Bylla and Ali) and catch up on the latest news.

Which is why, after 49 years together, I love her more now that ever! :)

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Which is why, after 49 years together, I love her more now that ever! :)

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marieann wrote:
Hopefully, when yours leaves, he won't be that far and in such a place where life is definitely in the fast lane.


He's moving to Tampa, FL. We are in Minnesota. He'll be far away but it will be nice to have a place to stay in February, little does he know I'll be visiting :wink:

My other kids left home at the appropriate ages, whew :P

Sounds like my family, Nell. Each of the three oldest were gone by age twenty-two at the latest. The youngest was still here at age 37.

Finally got married at age 38 and the compensation for the longer stay was that we are blessed with twin grandsons who are twenty years younger than the next-youngest cousins. :wink: :) :|

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Well, I am very similar in that I've always thrived on a lot of alone time. Getting married was hard for me in that way, because it seemed like DH was always around :P I finally got used to that and then we had a daughter... :wink:

Now that Olivia is 3.5 and goes to preschool a couple of mornings a week I find myself with much more "alone" time. Until recently I only had the two hours between her bedtime and mine (my husband works nights). Now I have the occasional morning or two a week and it is so strange.

One thing I learned is that what you think you need is often so much more than what you really need! I also remember the loss of autonomy when Livvy was a baby, oh how I just wanted free use of my arms! It really is a destruction of self in a lot of ways. You learn to treasure the few minutes alone in the car here and there, or the time in the shower, for sure!

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One thing I learned is that what you think you need is often so much more than what you really need! I also remember the loss of autonomy when Livvy was a baby, oh how I just wanted free use of my arms! It really is a destruction of self in a lot of ways. You learn to treasure the few minutes alone in the car here and there, or the time in the shower, for sure!


I think about this so often! I am always amazed at how selfish I was (and still am, but was more) before I got married and had babies. If I wanted something- a shower, go to the bathroom alone, not cook for a day, procrastinate on doing the laundry, run to the store 'real fast', a hour on the computer, quiet reading time, etc- it was no big deal. I would have never given it a second thought, I just did it. More than that, I felt I had a right to some of those things- especially the self-care ones and the alone time. I was entitled to them.

Then I had babies. Now I am still incredibly selfish, but I can look back and see I have come so far.

I don't have a right to anything. Everything is a gift- even going to the bathroom with the door closed. If I get a few minutes of alone time, it's a gift. The 'bad' days around here (where nothing gets done and I am screaming at the kids all day) it's because I starting to feel that sense of entitlement again. I deserve time to myself. I need time to myself. Then I start ignoring the things that need to be done (the laundry, the cooking, the childcare) and when the boys act up because they are bored and trying to get my attention, I start screaming. All because of my selfishness. IT's a pretty vicious cycle.

I am most certainly not trying to make anyone feel bad for needing or taking time for themselves. We all have different states of life. My state of life as a stay-at-home mother of three children under five who has chosen to homeschool is very, very demanding. I need to be monitoring and engaging my children most hours of the day, and the rest of the time I need to make myself available to them. Plus, there is managing the home, our finances, and doing the schooling.

It's definitely going to help me get to Heaven if I am willing to mortify myself and cooperate, though. For sure.

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I think about this so often! I am always amazed at how selfish I was (and still am, but was more) before I got married and had babies. If I wanted something- a shower, go to the bathroom alone, not cook for a day, procrastinate on doing the laundry, run to the store 'real fast', a hour on the computer, quiet reading time, etc- it was no big deal. I would have never given it a second thought, I just did it. More than that, I felt I had a right to some of those things- especially the self-care ones and the alone time. I was entitled to them.

Then I had babies. Now I am still incredibly selfish, but I can look back and see I have come so far.

I don't have a right to anything. Everything is a gift- even going to the bathroom with the door closed. If I get a few minutes of alone time, it's a gift. The 'bad' days around here (where nothing gets done and I am screaming at the kids all day) it's because I starting to feel that sense of entitlement again. I deserve time to myself. I need time to myself. Then I start ignoring the things that need to be done (the laundry, the cooking, the childcare) and when the boys act up because they are bored and trying to get my attention, I start screaming. All because of my selfishness. IT's a pretty vicious cycle.

I am most certainly not trying to make anyone feel bad for needing or taking time for themselves. We all have different states of life. My state of life as a stay-at-home mother of three children under five who has chosen to homeschool is very, very demanding. I need to be monitoring and engaging my children most hours of the day, and the rest of the time I need to make myself available to them. Plus, there is managing the home, our finances, and doing the schooling.

It's definitely going to help me get to Heaven if I am willing to mortify myself and cooperate, though. For sure.[/quote]

I totally agree. Your post wouldn't make any of us stay at home moms feel bad, we are just glad there are other moms who feel and do what we do. I hate it when I get frustrated with my kids and then yell and realize it was only because " I " was trying to get something done. Your post had me laughing :)

I do wonder how mothers who work outside of the home are even able to get their kids dressed and out the door everyday!?! We have a hard time going to the grocery store :P :oops: :P

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I was supossed to quote Krista and I think I just copied it--sorry-- :oops:

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