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PostPosted: 01 Feb 2013 21:40 
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I was having a discussion with a Catholic coworker today. We were talking about adultery. He said it's an unforgivable sin. I can certainly understand it would be unforgettable but at some point one must forgive even if the couple separates or divorces. Right?

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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2013 05:48 
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Unforgiveable to whom? There is no sin which cannot be forgiven by God in confession with a priest, with true contrition, etc. Regarding the person affected, I guess it depends on them whether they can forgive.

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Daisy wrote:
I was having a discussion with a Catholic coworker today. We were talking about adultery. He said it's an unforgivable sin. I can certainly understand it would be unforgettable but at some point one must forgive even if the couple separates or divorces. Right?

Indeed. As Andrew says, any sin can be forgiven, both by God and by men (with God's grace). Does that mean the couple stays together? Not necessarily; while divorce of a valid marriage is not possible, separation is sometimes necessary in some situations, such as an abusive spouse.

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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2013 07:50 
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Daisy wrote:
I was having a discussion with a Catholic coworker today. We were talking about adultery. He said it's an unforgivable sin. I can certainly understand it would be unforgettable but at some point one must forgive even if the couple separates or divorces. Right?


You are correct, insofar as we're discussing what the Church teaches. We must always do our best to forgive when others hurt us. People get into situations they know they shouldn't get into, but there's always a way to come back to the friendship of God.

OTOH, this person might have been speaking from his own experience and hurt, and it wouldn't be worth getting into an argument. My response would be to nod and agree that it would certainly be very difficult to forgive someone for doing that.

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I once had a priest tell me that the only sin he had never given absolution for was suicide.

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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2013 11:47 
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Bob C,

A priest speaking of confession to our RCIA class said, "believe me, there is no sin I haven't heard" and I raised my hand, which he was reluctant to recognize (because knew me) and I said "suicide" which caused the class to laugh but him to groan.

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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2013 22:50 
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Daisy wrote:
I was having a discussion with a Catholic coworker today. We were talking about adultery. He said it's an unforgivable sin. I can certainly understand it would be unforgettable but at some point one must forgive even if the couple separates or divorces. Right?


In my opinion...

An incident of adultery is quite a traumatic event that is cause for suffering for both spouses and the marriage.

Adultery it is not a politically correct or civilly observed trauma -it as well seems a trauma no longer worthy of social condemnation, government prevention and or laws against or penalizing it. Much similar to for instance other politically incorrect traumatic events like divorce and abortion it has been swept under the rug publicly; however, privately it still represents and embodies a traumatic event individually and societally that has created many that suffer from what is commonly termed PTSD used when discussing the politically correct traumas.

I would suggest that forgiving would be first and perhaps relatively the easiest part of the equation for one intent upon healing -coping and restoring what was damaged as a result would be the hardest part of the equation especially when considering there is scarce support socially for those that seek such. Sadly the oft quoted advice given to these poor souls is "move on" -in essence, sacrifice rather than heal your spirit and instead embrace material diversions.

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PostPosted: 03 Feb 2013 13:18 
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Daniel - I never thought of describing post-adultery trauma as PTSD but you have a point there.

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The Bible frequently uses adultery and prostitution as a metaphor to describe Israel's worshipping of false gods. Yet we know God has repeatedly forgiven those who came back to him and abandoned their idols.

In Canon Law, the victimized spouse of one who has committed adultery has the right to sever common conjugal life (although the bond of marriage remains intact).

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Can. 1152 ยง1 It is earnestly recommended that a spouse, motivated by christian charity and solicitous for the good of the family, should not refuse to pardon an adulterous partner and should not sunder the conjugal life. Nevertheless, if that spouse has not either expressly or tacitly condoned the other's fault, he or she has the right to sever the common conjugal life, provided he or she has not consented to the adultery, nor been the cause of it, nor also committed adultery.


Therefore, although the Church recommends earnestly that forgiveness prevail, adultery is serious enough that the victimized, innocent spouse is permitted to separate.

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